Another one bites the dust...........

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 Well after trying to help 9th fleet Baxter on TS  last night against a  seemed invasion onto my fleets TS server, and the ensue degredation of his whole community, I have come to one final conclusion. This isn't for me .
Now i like a miunor flame war as much as anyone , but the past 24 hrs. have shown me that the Ideals instilled by "TREK" are truely dead.  The total unwillingness to converse in civil tones , name calling , and inflamitory way the people try to bully their way arround ( yes WT , I am talking about you) has taken its toll.

I guess I should thank WT and his lackies for pushing me away from this game genre.I now can go out of the "basement" and go find a life, might even be happy for once , who knows.

Admins of Dyna.net---- the longer you let the smacktards use smack  the deeper they become hooked on it. WT et al. will never change, the 2 facedness i i felt and then was shown from him last night , then latter today just prooves what a manipulator he is , and will spell the downfall of all he touches.


I make this post as a last one before I delete this account as well as leave the fleet that  took me in i last NOV.16.I make this post as a plea for those that won't say goodbye , they will just fade as so not to increase the problems that one person has inflamed into almost allout war.DO something about it or waste away as he delights in his own undoing.
been nice knowing most of ya.

[AdmWaterTiger-11thFleet-]

Well after trying to help 9th fleet Baxter on TS  last night against a  seemed invasion onto my fleets TS server, and the ensue degredation of his whole community, I have come to one final conclusion. This isn't for me .
Now i like a miunor flame war as much as anyone , but the past 24 hrs. have shown me that the Ideals instilled by "TREK" are truely dead.  The total unwillingness to converse in civil tones , name calling , and inflamitory way the people try to bully their way arround ( yes WT , I am talking about you) has taken its toll.

I guess I should thank WT and his lackies for pushing me away from this game genre.I now can go out of the "basement" and go find a life, might even be happy for once , who knows.

Admins of Dyna.net---- the longer you let the smacktards use smack  the deeper they become hooked on it. WT et al. will never change, the 2 facedness i i felt and then was shown from him last night , then latter today just prooves what a manipulator he is , and will spell the downfall of all he touches.


I make this post as a last one before I delete this account as well as leave the fleet that  took me in i last NOV.16.I make this post as a plea for those that won't say goodbye , they will just fade as so not to increase the problems that one person has inflamed into almost allout war.DO something about it or waste away as he delights in his own undoing.
been nice knowing most of ya.

Well, with an attitude like that, can't say you'll be missed by the "lackies." Your reasoning last night was unsound. You never answered my question, by the way: What would you do if someone stole the name of your fleet that is nine years old? Ask -- like the "lackies" did in YOUR controlled TS environment -- or just not say anything at all.

Enjoy the basement.

Next time maybe consider the other side of the arguement before spouting off.

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AdmWaterTiger-11thFleet-

P.S. The entire conversation was recorded and I challenge you to find one foul word by me in that conversation. Never raised my voice or called ANYONE a name. Perhaps when the light goes on the cockroaches run?

[Cleaven]

Given that the name "Eleventh Fleet" was stolen form the creators of Star Blazers, what is your point?

[AdmWaterTiger-11thFleet-]

Given that the name "Eleventh Fleet" was stolen form the creators of Star Blazers, what is your point?

The point wasn't to you, sir Cleavan ...

This is a matter being handled by command -- and yes, they take their 11thFleet name seriously as it applies to the Trek genre. Most old fleets do.

Someone who calls himself admiral can rip off a fleet logo, bring up a cheap Website (not even registered) and call themselves whatever they want.

A compromise of "11th Rangers" was being offered to Sandman's group.

And if someone is so upset about this debate, perhaps they should not open the IE browser.

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AdmWaterTiger-11thFleet-

[KBF-Crim]

"Anything Watertiger touches turns to crap"

[AdmWaterTiger-11thFleet-]

"Anything Watertiger touches turns to crap"

Ah, yes .. another OP player who launches a personal attack and and will face no punishment by admins.

**sigh**

Such a wonderful community we have, eh, Nanner?

Is this the same guy who has tortured you for two years?

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AdmWaterTiger-11thFleet-

[likkerpig]

"Anything Watertiger touches turns to crap"

Ah, yes .. another OP player who launches a personal attack and and will face no punishment by admins.

**sigh**

Such a wonderful community we have, eh, Nanner?

Is this the same guy who has tortured you for two years?

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AdmWaterTiger-11thFleet-

Actually WT, Crim playing OP doesn't seem to have any bearing on his dislike for you. Sounds like you are trying to open another dimension to the arguement.

[AdmWaterTiger-11thFleet-]

"Anything Watertiger touches turns to crap"

Ah, yes .. another OP player who launches a personal attack and and will face no punishment by admins.

**sigh**

Such a wonderful community we have, eh, Nanner?

Is this the same guy who has tortured you for two years?

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AdmWaterTiger-11thFleet-

Actually WT, Crim playing OP doesn't seem to have any bearing on his dislike for you. Sounds like you are trying to open another dimension to the arguement.

Well, he doesn't play SFC3 -- so that leaves EAW. I never saw the guy in two years of playing EAW, so he must be a forum rat.

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AdmWaterTiger-11thFleet-

[Kane]

There is room for both fleet in this community.

[likkerpig]

Well, he doesn't play SFC3 -- so that leaves EAW. I never saw the guy in two years of playing EAW, so he must be a forum rat.

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AdmWaterTiger-11thFleet-

What?
Did I stutter?
Crim plays OP.
The point I was trying to make is that his dislike for you seems to have nothing to do with what game you play or he plays.... you are making an issue out of it.
I shouldn't speak for Crim, I don't really know him, but I saw you trying to turn the thread into OP vs SFC3 and figured I would draw attention to it.
Jesus

[AdmWaterTiger-11thFleet-]

There is room for both fleet in this community.

I agree Kane. Bishop is working on a compromise -- even after the way we were treated in TS last night.

The REAL 11th uses the XIth when signing onto servers -- always have. Go look on the B.A.D server or the MDF servers. And we aren't going to change nine years of fleet tags for a knock off group.

The premise of Sandman also that he did Web searches before deciding on the name. (searches show hundreds of hits, even to the point where top command staff (council) can be found in Commodore positions)

It isn't so much that .. but the way this happened -- and very recently on 9th forums on sfc3.net.

This was being discussed long before it came to a head.

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AdmWaterTiger-11thFleet-

[KBF-Crim]

And you are still a dork WT...

[AdmWaterTiger-11thFleet-]

And you are still a dork WT...

Love you too, Crim.

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[KBF-Crim]

Too bad...I pity you...and anyone foolish enough to become associated with you...

Yeah...I dont play the game ......dork.

[Kane]

There is room for both fleet in this community.

I agree Kane. Bishop is working on a compromise -- even after the way we were treated in TS last night.

The REAL 11th uses the XIth when signing onto servers -- always have. Go look on the B.A.D server or the MDF servers. And we aren't going to change nine years of fleet tags for a knock off group.

The premise of Sandman also that he did Web searches before deciding on the name. (searches show hundreds of hits, even to the point where top command staff (council) can be found in Commodore positions)

It isn't so much that .. but the way this happened -- and very recently on 9th forums on sfc3.net.

This was being discussed long before it came to a head.

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AdmWaterTiger-11thFleet-

I was addressing the Admiral of the VG11th Fleet, not the Vice Admirals.

You need to adjust your name according to your fleet rank.

Someone might get the wrong impression that your in-charge, WT.

[Cleaven]

Given that the name "Eleventh Fleet" was stolen form the creators of Star Blazers, what is your point?

The point wasn't to you, sir Cleavan ...

This is a matter being handled by command -- and yes, they take their 11thFleet name seriously as it applies to the Trek genre. Most old fleets do.

Someone who calls himself admiral can rip off a fleet logo, bring up a cheap Website (not even registered) and call themselves whatever they want.

A compromise of "11th Rangers" was being offered to Sandman's group.

And if someone is so upset about this debate, perhaps they should not open the IE browser.

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AdmWaterTiger-11thFleet-

And is your mob going to modify it's name or acknowledge the creators of StarBlazers for use of the Eleventh Fleet title?

[AdmWaterTiger-11thFleet-]

Kane, Kane, Kane ... *snickers*

If you knew anything about the rank structure in the 11th and the elder council -- of which I am a member -- you would know how and why we do rank the way we do. I have four admirals (we are all admirals) above me and a council of five Lords. We speak with one voice on this issue -- firmly.

<snickers again>

[AdmWaterTiger-11thFleet-]

Given that the name "Eleventh Fleet" was stolen form the creators of Star Blazers, what is your point?

The point wasn't to you, sir Cleavan ...

This is a matter being handled by command -- and yes, they take their 11thFleet name seriously as it applies to the Trek genre. Most old fleets do.

Someone who calls himself admiral can rip off a fleet logo, bring up a cheap Website (not even registered) and call themselves whatever they want.

A compromise of "11th Rangers" was being offered to Sandman's group.

And if someone is so upset about this debate, perhaps they should not open the IE browser.

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AdmWaterTiger-11thFleet-

And is your mob going to modify it's name or acknowledge the creators of StarBlazers for use of the Eleventh Fleet title?

StarBlazers -- great name Cleavan!

Make your own mob! or maybe you can suggest the knock off group use this one!

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[Kane]

Kane, Kane, Kane ... *snickers*

If you knew anything about the rank structure in the 11th and the elder council -- of which I am a member -- you would know how and why we do rank the way we do.

<snickers again>

I'm sorry, WT.

So you are incharge of the fleet.  My mistake

[AdmWaterTiger-11thFleet-]

I have four admirals (we are all admirals) above me and a council of five Lords. We speak with one voice on this issue -- firmly. There is also a separate council of elders and a marine division, six other divisions and a complex structure you may never understand.

For you to understand this rank structure, would require TRUE cognitive thinking -- something you lack at times.

And no, I don't run the fleet. Just a small cog in a big wheel that wants this issue resolved ammicably (you might have to look that one up, Kane)

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AdmWaterTiger-11thFleet-

P.S. Oh, forgot to mention the 23 active Knights who were just absorbed into the 11thFleet.

[Kane]

I have four admirals (we are all admirals) above me and a council of five Lords. We speak with one voice on this issue -- firmly. There is also a separate council of elders and a marine division, six other divisions and a complex structure you may never understand.

For you to understand this rank structure, would require TRUE cognitive thinking -- something you lack at times.

And no, I don't run the fleet. Just a small cog in a big wheel that wants this issue resolved ammicably (you might have to look that one up, Kane)

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AdmWaterTiger-11thFleet-

P.S. Oh, forgot to mention the 23 active Knights who were just absorbed into the 11thFleet.

No matter what fleet your in or what ever struture it has WT.

You will always be an A@#$%*&.  100% Gade A.

No cursing

[Kane]

Sorry Blade

He had it coming

[Cleaven]

Given that the name "Eleventh Fleet" was stolen form the creators of Star Blazers, what is your point?

The point wasn't to you, sir Cleavan ...

This is a matter being handled by command -- and yes, they take their 11thFleet name seriously as it applies to the Trek genre. Most old fleets do.

Someone who calls himself admiral can rip off a fleet logo, bring up a cheap Website (not even registered) and call themselves whatever they want.

A compromise of "11th Rangers" was being offered to Sandman's group.

And if someone is so upset about this debate, perhaps they should not open the IE browser.

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AdmWaterTiger-11thFleet-

And is your mob going to modify it's name or acknowledge the creators of StarBlazers for use of the Eleventh Fleet title?

StarBlazers -- great name Cleavan!

Make your own mob! or maybe you can suggest the knock off group use this one!

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I don't need a mob, especially when they are so familair with the use of foul language.

But for all your complaining you still don't seem to acknowledge that the Eleventh Fleet was an original title used by the StarBlazers animated series, and you make no acknowledgement to the creators of that name while you complain about others stealing it from you. Now if you were to acknowledge the real creators and not just claim it solely as your own I could understand your position, but as it is, it seems a little like one sided logic.

[AdmWaterTiger-11thFleet-]

I have four admirals (we are all admirals) above me and a council of five Lords. We speak with one voice on this issue -- firmly. There is also a separate council of elders and a marine division, six other divisions and a complex structure you may never understand.

For you to understand this rank structure, would require TRUE cognitive thinking -- something you lack at times.

And no, I don't run the fleet. Just a small cog in a big wheel that wants this issue resolved ammicably (you might have to look that one up, Kane)

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AdmWaterTiger-11thFleet-

P.S. Oh, forgot to mention the 23 active Knights who were just absorbed into the 11thFleet.

No matter what fleet your in or what ever struture it has WT.

You will always be an A@#$%*&.  100% Gade A.

No cursing

And this half of the D-3 feels EXACTLY the same about you ... How many times did KoraH fire you as a TNZ RL?

In the words of WC Fields: 'Go away son -- ya' bother me.'

[FVA_C_Blade_XC]

Stop with the personal attacks please.

[AdmWaterTiger-11thFleet-]

Sorry Blade

He had it coming

Kane already apologized, Blade ... that should cover him for anything he says -- it usually does. I'm used to the personal insults by him.

**You think he actually went to a dictionary and looked up the word 'ammicable'?

[kortez]

One more veiled insult, one more nasty comment, one more anything wrong and I will start banning.