Topic: Another Trek TV Series? (Read 3336 times)

Chris Jones · « **on:** March 25, 2006, 09:26:28 pm »

Anyone seen this or heard it from another source?

http://www.syfyportal.com/news.php?id=2459

IndyShark · « **Reply #1 on:** March 25, 2006, 09:32:53 pm »

I have not, but I hope it's true! Love Star Trek and just purchased all four seasson of Enterprise!

EmeraldEdge · « **Reply #2 on:** March 26, 2006, 12:06:56 am »

Well, I agree with him. I don't think that in the end folks are going to say "Hey, you know that franchise we have that has rabid fans all around the world? Yeah, let's just shelf it, there's no money to be made there."

I think I read an article where they were looking at the viability of straight to video stuff for Trek, though. As long as they don't just crap stuff out I'd be ok with that, but I have a feeling it would be low budget.

FPF-DieHard · « **Reply #3 on:** March 26, 2006, 12:26:07 pm »

Trek will be back, hopefully with new blood and a new creative spirit. The last season of Enterprise was awesome after the got someone else beside B&B running the show.

Sgt K USMC · « **Reply #4 on:** March 26, 2006, 06:21:56 pm »

The history channel was running a week long series called "How William Shatner changed the world" In it he said there would be no more Star Trek TV series.

God I hope he was wrong

I have also heard that a possible remake of the original has been tossed around as has a mini-series dealing with the return of Sisko to DS-9. Granted I also heard that the DS-9 Sisko thing may also be incorporated into the next movie.

But who knows. This is Trek after all.

Semper Fi'

Magnum357 · « **Reply #5 on:** March 27, 2006, 04:43:48 am »

Well guys, I might regreat this, but I would like to give my opinion on Star Treks future.

I grew up with Star Trek since I was a kid. Watched Star Trek 2 TWOK as one of my first Star Trek experiences and still consider it one of the best Star Trek episodes. I read that article and Bakula seems enthusiastic about a new Star Trek series. Even though some critisized him, I thought he did a pretty good job on Enterprise. If Paramont/Viacom did decide to do another Star Trek series, I personally would be very wary of watching it. Not that I have grown tired of Star Trek, I just wonder to myself if a new Star Trek series is "just not for my generation anymore". I like watching some of the old TNG and DS9 eps on Spike and such, but i wonder if there are hardly any new story plots for them to think of anymore. Maybe I'm getting too old and unimaginiative, but TOS, TNG, and DS9 really hit on a lot of stories and issues and wonder if they could ever build (let alone top) on them with a new series. And with the problems Star Trek: Enterprise had with its first 3 seasons, wouldn't you think it would be wise for Paramont too take a time out before trying to go at it again?

And why do a series right now? How about going back too making a Movie or two and test out the waters again?

P.S. I must admit, a movie or a small mini-series based on Sisko would be rather interesting. And I will say that the last season of Enterprise written Manny Koto (I think that was his name) was by far some of the better stories of the series. If they are going to get writers for a new Star trek Stories, Manny would be a good start.

Overmind · « **Reply #6 on:** March 28, 2006, 08:16:46 am »

Enterprise's relative unsuccess was due in part to the Era.
After you've seen Warbirds, Cubes and other very nice ships and you look at that almost civilian one...well it's kinda ... (don't know how to describe the feeling; not good anyway).
The next logial series should happen after TNG Era, with a Species 8472 invasion of the alpha Quadrant.

Magnum357 · « **Reply #7 on:** March 28, 2006, 05:24:31 pm »

I'm not sure about that. I still think a Movie would be best. Test the waters like I said above. I don't know about species8472, why would they worry about the Feds (or anybody else in the Alpha quadrant) when there are whole other Galaxies and civilizations that could threaten them just as much.

there is still a huge amout of the Galaxy left unexplored. And with Voyagers pitstops along the way back to the Alpha quadrant, there are tons of unexplored space left in the Mikyway. As for Enterprise, I do agree, the Era was a difficult one to do right. If your going to do preqeuls, you got to do your homework because its part of the history of series.

GDA-S'Cipio · « **Reply #8 on:** March 29, 2006, 12:04:50 am »

Quote from: Overmind on March 28, 2006, 08:16:46 am

Enterprise's relative unsuccess was due in part to the Era.
After you've seen Warbirds, Cubes and other very nice ships and you look at that almost civilian one...well it's kinda ... (don't know how to describe the feeling; not good anyway).
The next logial series should happen after TNG Era, with a Species 8472 invasion of the alpha Quadrant.

I absolutely disagree with this. Era had nothing to do with it; poor writing did. The show had a great cast and grat potential, it was just handled very, very badly. The problem wasn't that it was a prequel. The problem was that it was a prequel that they tried to write for as if it was still Next Generation. (But most of the writing would have stunk even if it had happened in Next Generation.)

Personally, I would find an early era show far more interesting than moving further down the timeline.

-S'Cipio

Magnum357 · « **Reply #9 on:** March 29, 2006, 03:45:53 am »

Ya, I do agree with many of your points S'Cipio. That is why I suggested a Movie or a small mini-series, to test the waters.

Commander La'ra · « **Reply #10 on:** March 29, 2006, 04:27:30 am »

Quote

Era had nothing to do with it; poor writing did. The show had a great cast and grat potential, it was just handled very, very badly. The problem wasn't that it was a prequel. The problem was that it was a prequel that they tried to write for as if it was still Next Generation.

This statement is quite accurate.

We saw some of what that show could've accomplished with occasional great episodes and a much improved fourth season. Just enough goodness to frustrate fans with hints of competence.

Special effects and fanboy-pleasing uber ships mean nothing. If they did, shows like Battlestar Galactica and Firefly might suffer for the lack...instead they've replaced Trek as the best of TV sci-fi.

FPF-Tobin Dax · « **Reply #11 on:** March 29, 2006, 05:02:50 am »

Quote from: GDA-S'Cipio on March 29, 2006, 12:04:50 am

Quote from: Overmind on March 28, 2006, 08:16:46 am
Enterprise's relative unsuccess was due in part to the Era.
After you've seen Warbirds, Cubes and other very nice ships and you look at that almost civilian one...well it's kinda ... (don't know how to describe the feeling; not good anyway).
The next logial series should happen after TNG Era, with a Species 8472 invasion of the alpha Quadrant.

I absolutely disagree with this. Era had nothing to do with it; poor writing did. The show had a great cast and grat potential, it was just handled very, very badly. The problem wasn't that it was a prequel. The problem was that it was a prequel that they tried to write for as if it was still Next Generation. (But most of the writing would have stunk even if it had happened in Next Generation.)

Personally, I would find an early era show far more interesting than moving further down the timeline.

-S'Cipio

Right on! B&B blew enterprise and the 4th season showed that you could do a prequel and all you had to do is fill in all the backstop holes left by TOS and other treks. I just finished watching the vulcan arc from the 4th season and it was awesome. The andorian tellarite stuff was great too. If Enterprise had been this way out of the gates, they wouldn't have lost half the audience and might have grown it some.

EmeraldEdge · « **Reply #12 on:** March 29, 2006, 05:47:33 am »

Yep, but they always get the wrong message. They walk away saying "Gee, prequels are tired and don't work" and "maybe the franchise just needs a rest" instead of "Gee, these guys who are writing and in charge are tired and didn't work out and didn't pay attention to any kind of continuity the fans were looking for, at all" OK, now they aren't working there anymore "technically" but they'll be back (one is working on a movie, right?). With Threshold off the air (cancelled before it could finish a season. Surely not!

) I would bet money Bragga is going to want to worm his way back into the fold. Unfortunately I didn't see all of the fourth season, but what I did see was tremendous (with a few exceptions... Romulan Ridges! Aaaaargh!). It certainly wasn't the casts fault, I've maintained that they were my favorite next to TOS, but the plots and writing were just so ghastly and then the trouncing of established trek lore... Man, there should be a lawsuit in there somewhere for mishandling of property, shouldn't there? If I put someone in charge like that again, I'd want a clause in the contract that would give me compensation for such blatant disregard for the franchise and it's future value. Oh, wait! They thought they were going to make it better than all that crappy stuff that had been said in all those other series, right? You know, all those awful episode that spawned a cultural phenomenon? Yeah, we're so much better than that. Ugh!

Magnum357 · « **Reply #13 on:** March 29, 2006, 08:57:31 pm »

Well, I don't know about doing an early era show is the best thing for Paramont right now. B & B still run the show and I would be cautious in letting them have the Driver seat again in writing the eps. But as the 4th season of Enterprise showed, an Early era series is not out of the question.

Having a show just after DS9 or Nemisis is also a possibility. After the battle between Sisko and Dukat in the Fire Caves, at lot happened in the Alpha Quadrant. Gem H'dar soilders all over the place with no war to fight. Is the Worm hole off limits now after the Dominion war? The Distruction of the Cardassian empire must have left a lot of uncertainty in the whole region. And what about the Breen? I'm sure many races and empries don't trust them as much as they use too. Lots of interesting stories can be made with just what happened in the previous series then trying to introduce a new bad guy all the time.

EmeraldEdge · « **Reply #14 on:** March 30, 2006, 01:34:34 am »

I think that's where they falter all the time. They seem so desperate to make all the main enemies into friends. What's so wrong with having an enemy that wants to stay enemies? Surely there must be some race in the universe who won't latch onto a human's version of reason and decide that the universe would be better off without those pesky Federation folks (I know a lot of humans think we'd be better off without those pesky UN folks, so they've got to be somewhere, right?). As long as B&B are attached in anyway, I would pray Paramount just sits on Trek. When they are gone, then start pumpin' out the Trek goodness using folks who really know what they are doing. I'd go with post Nemesis because of the damage B&B have done to the idea of a prequel. I'd bring back an old enemy. make them even more hell bent on causing havok within the empire. Heck, I'd bring them all back, Romulans more of an enemy than ever, Klingons decide to go back to the way of the warrior... It makes it a more interesting universe when you are having to look over your shoulder for Klinks and Roms while you're negotiating that peace treaty with "planet of the week".

Nemesis · « **Reply #15 on:** March 31, 2006, 11:00:20 pm »

Quote from: Magnum357 on March 29, 2006, 08:57:31 pm

Having a show just after DS9 or Nemisis is also a possibility.

You are definitely onto something there. Just remember there is only one "i" in Nemesis but two "e"s.

A show based on ME would be excellent, an instant smash hit.
Its no longer March here

E_Look NCC-9091 · « **Reply #16 on:** April 01, 2006, 12:08:10 am »

I don't know. From your sig pic, you look like a Teletubby. Now, carrying your own communicator in your belly is a novel sci fi idea, but I'm not sure people on these forums are into Teletubbies!

Riskyllama · « **Reply #17 on:** April 01, 2006, 01:50:06 am »

i'm pretty sure he's a muppet

EmeraldEdge · « **Reply #18 on:** April 01, 2006, 01:57:19 pm »

That's Dr. Bunsen Honeydew, baby! Love that guy.

Nemesis · « **Reply #19 on:** April 01, 2006, 02:06:42 pm »

Quote from: EmeraldEdge on April 01, 2006, 01:57:19 pm

That's Dr. Bunsen Honeydew, baby! Love that guy.

It is a cunning disguise that lets me pass as human on this planet. It was suggested by Ford Prefect based on his extensive research, should I be going to England to have some words with him and his towel about the disguise?

Age · « **Reply #20 on:** April 01, 2006, 02:53:01 pm »

Quote from: GDA-S'Cipio on March 29, 2006, 12:04:50 am

Quote from: Overmind on March 28, 2006, 08:16:46 am
Enterprise's relative unsuccess was due in part to the Era.
After you've seen Warbirds, Cubes and other very nice ships and you look at that almost civilian one...well it's kinda ... (don't know how to describe the feeling; not good anyway).
The next logial series should happen after TNG Era, with a Species 8472 invasion of the alpha Quadrant.

I absolutely disagree with this. Era had nothing to do with it; poor writing did. The show had a great cast and grat potential, it was just handled very, very badly. The problem wasn't that it was a prequel. The problem was that it was a prequel that they tried to write for as if it was still Next Generation. (But most of the writing would have stunk even if it had happened in Next Generation.)

Personally, I would find an early era show far more interesting than moving further down the timeline.

-S'Cipio

I couldn't agree with you more and it would be nice to see something from the 23C. for a change to much TNG except DS9.The link isn't working btw.

Chris Jones · « **Reply #21 on:** April 02, 2006, 10:16:13 am »

hmm.

link fixed..

I'd like to see a series with Riker and the USS Titan, as a follow up to Nemesis.

OR

More of the Mirror Universe from the Enterprise perspective.

E_Look NCC-9091 · « **Reply #22 on:** April 02, 2006, 01:05:29 pm »

Chris, I'd love to see Big Bad Admrial Picard running Starfleet Command in such a series, one to whom all Starfleet captains quake in their boots, Klingons ask favors of, and Romulans test wits against. Problem is, I don't Patrick Stewart would accept such a role anymore.

AlchemistiD · « **Reply #23 on:** April 02, 2006, 05:25:14 pm »

Prob'ly not. But Admiral Janeway is already there.

Dammit man...Janeway is the boss NO ONE can bitch to. She's been across the galaxy lost trying to get home with no resources, had to deal with the borg and numerous threats, had to deal with Q, was present at the big bang, and a myriad of other stuff...

I feel sorry for starfleet...no one can complain about anything anymore.

Overmind · « **Reply #24 on:** May 06, 2006, 04:15:28 am »

Well, the parallel dark side Universe might not be a too good ideea.
Practically the Federation was gone and there was total chaos.
Everything would be turned to a fight of a resistance cell against everyone else.
As for the USS Titan + Riker... this would be good to have, but some old crew "infusions"would probably become necessary.

trident850 · « **Reply #25 on:** May 28, 2006, 06:22:25 pm »

I personally would like to see a series more or less modeled on a book series i read recently...about IKS Gorkon..captain Klag(Ryker's friend from the cultural exchange)..it takes place after the Dominion war..the Klingon Empire needs to expand to recover..and it is an excellent series...doing a show in that vein might be refreshing

Trident

Nemesis · « **Reply #26 on:** May 28, 2006, 06:52:41 pm »

Klingon civil war with the TOS Klingons returning to power and making the Empire a power house once more.

Magnum357 · « **Reply #27 on:** May 29, 2006, 04:54:46 pm »

Quote from: IKV Nemesis on May 28, 2006, 06:52:41 pm

Klingon civil war with the TOS Klingons returning to power and making the Empire a power house once more.

????

Lepton · « **Reply #28 on:** May 30, 2006, 07:24:23 pm »

I'll tell you the problem with Trek right now. Prepare to flame away. It's the captain as hero. This is such a tired formula. The hierarchy, the pseudo-military feel, the navy in space. the same old dialogue again and again. "Set course". "Engage". "Fire photon torpodoes". Yada Yada Yada. It's so lame. It is lame in trek. It is lame in Andromeda. It was nearly lame in Firefly, although they expanded, distorted and played with the captain as hero thing on that show. It's a tired paradigm and no longer engaging as far as I am concerned. The whole call and response, crew as extension of the captain's will, yada, yada, yada. The future is not like this and if it is, I want no part of it. If you're not a captain, you are merely a cog, a dialogue call and response box. Perhaps you will say this is merely symptomatic of bad writing, but I think there is a deeper thing going on here. The most popular sci-fi I have seen in the past ten years has been based on more of a cyber-punk, anti-hero/persecuted man sort of thing. This "to boldy go where no one has gone before" stuff is not cutting it in a cynical world.

Commander Maxillius · « **Reply #29 on:** June 01, 2006, 09:55:21 pm »

they could try "Star Trek meets The Matrix"

Imagine a story telling about how the Borg came to be. A people much like ourselves except that they think it would be cool to be in an alternate machine reality

But what happens when they want more?

sounds very complex and quite interesting if done properly

I'm imagining a very artistic approach... anime-styled scenes... unconventional storylines....

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