Topic: D7 Upgrade + Akyazi Class Perimeter Action Ship (Read 9968 times)

Wicked Zombie · « **on:** June 20, 2006, 07:50:46 pm »

The D7 is an upgrade to my old model with new engines and tweaked textures. There's an alternate version included with top-mounted drone launchers. The Akyazi is one of the unusual looking ships from various publications that everyone is no doubt already familiar with. Both are now posted on DRS in their respective download sections.

CyberTrekFan · « **Reply #1 on:** June 20, 2006, 08:32:47 pm »

As always great looking ships.

Very nice!

Centurus · « **Reply #2 on:** June 20, 2006, 08:36:09 pm »

BAD ZOMBIE!!!! BAD BAD BAD!!!! You released the Akyazi and you didn't tell me first? :-( Oh well, I'll be having fun with the ship. *evil grin*

Seriously though, she looks incredible. Another ship to add to me collection.

DuctTapeWonder · « **Reply #3 on:** June 20, 2006, 08:49:54 pm »

Outstanding. Very clean looking Akyazi. Very precise lines on both of them for that matter. I always have appreciated your attention to detail.

KBF-Crim · « **Reply #4 on:** June 20, 2006, 10:44:24 pm »

Awesome!

A klink and bonus targets

Dizzy · « **Reply #5 on:** June 20, 2006, 11:27:32 pm »

Those are some sweet textures. Make any other mesh changes other than engines to the D7? And from a modelers perspective what do you see different between a D6 and D7 class?

I, Mudd. · « **Reply #6 on:** June 21, 2006, 12:11:41 am »

I didn't remember the Akyazi having such a curved look to its nacelle struts, no surprise if I'm mistaken - I don't browse too many TMP designs, but it is a very nice touch, looking quite natural to the overall composition.

Great job, WZ.

I, Mudd.

^ Just checked a schematic at www.strekschematics.utvinternet.com, I was right in not being too familiar with the design. Great job in any case WZ!

Wicked Zombie · « **Reply #7 on:** June 21, 2006, 12:58:46 am »

As far as the D7 changes go, I rounded out a few of the parts on the boom, modified the launch bay superstructure, modeled the retractable disruptor turrets, modeled in the forward wing insets, altered the torpedo tube and obviously remapped the whole ship down to six textures. As I stated on the DRS forums, my D7 was never meant to be a canon representation and is more of a blending of the TOS, Phase II, and TMP versions. Sort of a transition from TOS to the K'tinga.

Regarding a D6, I'd say that it would be noticeably different. It could incorporate elements from the D5 from Enterprise with early stages of the D7 design, or just have it's own unique style.

I wasn't too familiar with the Akyazi myself and got conflicting references from various sites. There's a number of subclasses, not to mention everyone seems to have their own take on the ship's details. I just took the most common of them and used the rest to fill in any gaps.

Khalee1 · « **Reply #8 on:** June 21, 2006, 08:50:36 am »

Can allways use another Klingon d7 variant to round out their fleet.

jayvt3 · « **Reply #9 on:** June 21, 2006, 12:24:39 pm »

You really did great work on the AKAYAZI.
I'm having a problem tough with the retexured KOLODE. I keep getting a corrupted file message when I try to open it.
I got WINZIP 10 with the latest upgrade. still keep getting the "corrupted file" message though.

Chrystoff · « **Reply #10 on:** June 21, 2006, 03:05:46 pm »

Quote from: Fallen_Warrior on June 21, 2006, 02:48:17 pm

WZ sweet work on both models but i gotta ask somethin where are the Akyazi's windows? she should have atleast 1 row around the saucers edge.

I have several different Akyazi class diagrams (including the Mastercom Data plans), and none of them have windows, with the exception of a viewing/crew lounge window facing directly aft.

Magnum357 · « **Reply #11 on:** June 21, 2006, 04:41:03 pm »

More fine models from WZ. Very nice work. I'm not a huge Akyazi Class Fan (always thought the Engines looked a little strange) but this model is probably the best I have seen of that class.

Chris Johnson · « **Reply #12 on:** June 21, 2006, 04:59:59 pm »

Quote from: Chrystoff on June 21, 2006, 03:05:46 pm

Quote from: Fallen_Warrior on June 21, 2006, 02:48:17 pm
WZ sweet work on both models but i gotta ask somethin where are the Akyazi's windows? she should have atleast 1 row around the saucers edge.
I have several different Akyazi class diagrams (including the Mastercom Data plans), and none of them have windows, with the exception of a viewing/crew lounge window facing directly aft.

Quote from: Fallen_Warrior on June 21, 2006, 04:06:23 pm

yeah i know that the class has an absence of windows in the design but it doesnt feel right with this version

I can understand that windows serve for crew who likes to look outside every once in a while, but considering the Akayazi, like the Defiant, is a warship, why do we need to paste windows all over the ship? That's one of my more-recent nitpicks of combat ships like the SFB DNs and BBs or the alternate universe Galaxy-class from "Yesterday's Enterprise" when they were developed as warships rather than exploration ships with teeth when the Enterprise-C was thrown across time Blue Smoke Express-style, but I know TNG didn't have the FX tech we have today and had to use the model unchanged, but... *shrug* I felt the Defiant had just the right amount of (maybe too much) windows for a combat ship.

I don't know whether the Akayazi should have one or two, but I like the model WZ made of her. If I had anything to criticize, it's perhaps... I don't know. I wish I did because I don't really feel like praising all the time (because sometimes, to me, it feels like spam posts for upping the post count), but I can find little fault in WZ's Akayazi or touches on the Kolode, which, in my opinion, makes the Kolode more aesthetically Klingon. Excellent work. Never doubt the talent of the undead, my friends.

Dizzy · « **Reply #13 on:** June 21, 2006, 05:19:36 pm »

Windows may be an important psychological crew component. They may also serve as vent ducts for fires, open access ways for large equipment transfers... Remember, those windows are metal... 'transparent aluminum.'

Shadowfleet · « **Reply #14 on:** June 21, 2006, 06:35:39 pm »

Nice job WZ. They both look awesome, especially the Akyazi. Thanks for making them available to us.

I feared you had taken your site down since I hadn't been able to access it for the past month or so. The ovehaul is NICE!

Raven Night · « **Reply #15 on:** June 22, 2006, 02:49:25 pm »

As always WZ, stunning work.

Chrystoff · « **Reply #16 on:** June 23, 2006, 03:24:06 pm »

Quote from: dizzy on June 21, 2006, 05:19:36 pm

Windows may be an important psychological crew component. They may also serve as vent ducts for fires, open access ways for large equipment transfers... Remember, those windows are metal... 'transparent aluminum.'

Maybe they have "Holo-Windows." You can look out, but no one can look back in, lol!!

Hollis J Wood · « **Reply #17 on:** June 24, 2006, 02:30:32 am »

looking good WZ as always.

Centurus · « **Reply #18 on:** June 24, 2006, 11:27:37 pm »

Quote from: Chrystoff on June 23, 2006, 03:24:06 pm

Quote from: dizzy on June 21, 2006, 05:19:36 pm
Windows may be an important psychological crew component. They may also serve as vent ducts for fires, open access ways for large equipment transfers... Remember, those windows are metal... 'transparent aluminum.'
Maybe they have "Holo-Windows." You can look out, but no one can look back in, lol!!

That would most definately prove usefull for the exibitionists of the crew.

markyd · « **Reply #19 on:** June 27, 2006, 03:56:20 am »

Nice work WZ

Don Karnage · « **Reply #20 on:** July 02, 2006, 11:30:01 pm »

WZ have you try making some pirate ship?, mostly the one we see on the op box?

Core · « **Reply #21 on:** July 07, 2006, 08:06:48 am »

grate ships WZ ...

but id like to point to nacelles and pylon's they need to be better integrated...

i mean the pylons sit on the AM emitters themselves... that ain't right...
you could make that section regular ... remove the blue section and add a bit of a surfaces area for the pylon to stick on...
cos ATM the nacelles look like they are going to slide off the pylons any second...if it moved

i know SFC doesn't really care abut the lower side of the ship ...but still very cool ship

and I'm sure you already known that and took it under consideration....

Wicked Zombie · « **Reply #22 on:** July 07, 2006, 03:33:33 pm »

That's how it looks in the schematics, and the physical models I've seen, and all the other game renditions out there. It may not be 'right', but that's an issue to be taken up with the original design. I don't like the idea of running the pylons up into the bottom of the engine glow either, but, that's the way the ship was drawn.

I don't agree on the bottom of the ship not being worth the effort - SFC has multiple view angles, as do other games - not to mention the model programs. I give the same attention to the lower side of the ship that I do to the rest, otherwise the ship would simply come off looking halfassed. However, when there isn't much of a ship to work with in the first place, it kinda leaves me at a disadvantage. The Akyazi is a flat bottomed vessel that doesn't have much in the way of detail or physical depth. One can only do so much with a pancake.

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I don't have much use for pirate ships and I doubt anyone else does either. I already had my fill of trying to update low texture, low detail stock models with newer renditions (the KA Klingons and SFC Andros). Trying to work with the stock pirate models isn't really worth the effort since most people just use them for target practice...and the designs aren't all that appealing.

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As for the Akyazi viewports, that's the way the ship was drawn. Besides, windows are overrated...

Dizzy · « **Reply #23 on:** July 08, 2006, 06:51:45 pm »

Quote from: Wicked Zombie on July 07, 2006, 03:33:33 pm

I don't like the idea of running the pylons up into the bottom of the engine glow either, but, that's the way the ship was drawn.

Then why'd you do it? That's why I've always liked your models... While they conform to the general principles of how their parent or comparable designs are implemented, your models have an aesthetical beauty all their own even tho they can be in some instances remarkably different. I wouldnt have expected this of you.

Quote from: Wicked Zombie on July 07, 2006, 03:33:33 pm

As for the Akyazi viewports, that's the way the ship was drawn. Besides, windows are overrated...

Well... You wouldnt catch me dead on a boat without a window. Heaven or Hell, I'm having windows installed in my coffin.

Wicked Zombie · « **Reply #24 on:** July 09, 2006, 12:26:59 am »

You could ask "Why did I do it?" on all the canon ships I've made, too. There's things on the Defiant and Constitution that I would change, however, if I did change them, they wouldn't be their respective ships anymore. They would be variants or subclasses, which would somewhat negate the whole purpose of making the originals in the first place.

There's also the simple matter of if I had changed it from the original design, then others would be asking why I altered it. There's no way to avoid these kinds of criticisms and I'm not going to try. I wanted to make an Akyazi that was close to the schematics, and since it isn't my design, I didn't feel obligated to overhaul any of the possible problems. If I had, it wouldn't be the Akyazi and I may as well have made a whole new ship instead.

At any rate, the rim of the saucer is textured, as is the nacelle glow, so if anyone wants to add windows or replace the blue with hull paneling it's certainly not beyond the realm of feasibility.

Bernard Guignard · « **Reply #25 on:** July 09, 2006, 06:29:10 am »

Hello WZ;

Quote from: Wicked Zombie on July 09, 2006, 12:26:59 am

You could ask "Why did I do it?" on all the canon ships I've made, too. There's things on the Defiant and Constitution that I would change, however, if I did change them, they wouldn't be their respective ships anymore. They would be variants or subclasses, which would somewhat negate the whole purpose of making the originals in the first place.

There's also the simple matter of if I had changed it from the original design, then others would be asking why I altered it. There's no way to avoid these kinds of criticisms and I'm not going to try. I wanted to make an Akyazi that was close to the schematics, and since it isn't my design, I didn't feel obligated to overhaul any of the possible problems. If I had, it wouldn't be the Akyazi and I may as well have made a whole new ship instead.

At any rate, the rim of the saucer is textured, as is the nacelle glow, so if anyone wants to add windows or replace the blue with hull paneling it's certainly not beyond the realm of feasibility.

I'd love to see what changes you'd make in the Constitution class the more variants the better I believe. Take care and be well

ModelsPlease · « **Reply #26 on:** July 12, 2006, 09:09:05 am »

Quote

There's things on the Defiant and Constitution that I would change, however, if I did change them, they wouldn't be their respective ships anymore.

I agree with Bernard Guignard. I would be very interested in seeing what you have in mind for those ships.

Dizzy · « **Reply #27 on:** July 12, 2006, 09:15:40 pm »

Lol, I had to open my big mouth. haha.

Ok WZ, I think you just got a blank check.

Star Dragon · « **Reply #28 on:** July 15, 2006, 06:23:47 pm »

Everyone has different tastes.

IE I love the D7, but dislike the design of the Akyazi class, however they are BOTH very well done.

Anyway, now that he did the original which should satisfy the purists, there is room for varients and no one should be upset (correct)?

Star Dragon · « **Reply #29 on:** July 16, 2006, 08:32:51 pm »

Well, maybe WZ has some on the backburner? Wicked, have you started anything yet?

Don Karnage · « **Reply #30 on:** July 23, 2006, 12:03:38 pm »

WZ: what about a early Klingon Bop?, one before st3, like a prototype of the ship from early tmp era or late tos?

something cool

Chrystoff · « **Reply #31 on:** July 23, 2006, 12:15:22 pm »

WZ, I'll ask you the same question as I asked Adonis: Will you also be making the Akula varient of the Akyazi?

Don Karnage · « **Reply #32 on:** July 23, 2006, 12:42:28 pm »

I know that MP - TUS and P81 have made the Akyazi mod, i think its available at: www.freewebs.com/manitobashipyards/index.htm

but its hard to find anything there, so i can zip it and send it to you.

Chrystoff · « **Reply #33 on:** July 23, 2006, 01:01:45 pm »

Quote from: DonKarnage on July 23, 2006, 12:42:28 pm

I know that MP - TUS and P81 have made the Akyazi mod, i think its available at: www.freewebs.com/manitobashipyards/index.htm

but its hard to find anything there, so i can zip it and send it to you.

Oh, thank you, but I allready have it. I was just curious if WZ would be doing one as well. Can never have too many varients!

Don Karnage · « **Reply #34 on:** July 23, 2006, 02:33:41 pm »

WZ: i discover 2 dead link at your web site in the romulan section, the vengeance hack and the melak, when you fix them can you tell me so i can download them?

thanks

ModelsPlease · « **Reply #35 on:** July 23, 2006, 03:49:24 pm »

Quote from: DonKarnage on July 23, 2006, 12:42:28 pm

I know that MP - TUS and P81 have made the Akyazi mod, i think its available at: www.freewebs.com/manitobashipyards/index.htm

but its hard to find anything there, so i can zip it and send it to you.

My 2 versions are over at OutaLance as well

Don Karnage · « **Reply #36 on:** July 23, 2006, 04:44:03 pm »

give the link so i can get them

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