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Re: Babylon 5
« Reply #20 on: November 12, 2009, 12:25:01 pm »
And the audience seeing an aged Sinclair at the end of the episode implied otherwise?  I guess we'll have to agree to disagree on this.  To me, the first season just doesn't seem to fit in that well with the grand arc scheme of the rest of the series.

All the older Sinclair really implies is that he was involved at a later time of his personal timeline.  Which matches the facts that are ultimately shown.  The rest is audience assumption. 
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Re: Babylon 5
« Reply #21 on: November 13, 2009, 05:46:50 pm »
Honestly, I can't believe no one has mention this...

IMO, the best part of this entire series is the interaction & dynamic relationship between Molari & G'kar.

Also, since I have had a thing for Patricia Tallman since I saw her in "knightriders" I really enjoyed her as Lyta.
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Re: Babylon 5
« Reply #22 on: November 13, 2009, 06:10:06 pm »
Honestly, I can't believe no one has mention this...

IMO, the best part of this entire series is the interaction & dynamic relationship between Molari & G'kar.

I felt all the characters were well done and had excellent interactions.  The Londo and G'Kar characters are much more flamboyant than the others so they get to have more fireworks.

I like the fact that like real people they have flaws.  The obvious racial hatred between Londo and G'Kar, Garibaldi and his drinking problem and so on. 

Also the little touches where they built in things that came from the real world.  Ivanovas broken foot was Claudia Christians real sprained ankle.  Ivanova telling the smuggler she wouldn't tell Garibaldi who brought in the stuff that made his hair fall out and turn grey (the actor lost the hair suddenly between seasons). Using Bruce Boxlietners actual wife for his characters wife was nice too.

Also, since I have had a thing for Patricia Tallman since I saw her in "knightriders" I really enjoyed her as Lyta.

The first time I watched Babylon 5 throughm when a friend called me and asked what I was doing he said he didn't watch the show as it had no one "hot", I just said "Susan Ivanova" (and gave him the actresses name as well) and when he said "Who?" I told him he is gay.  I later sent him some pictures to prove my point.   He reminds me of Londo. 

None of that is to be taken as my not appreciating Lyta but I hadn't seen her yet in the show and would have to list her as a close #2. 
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Re: Babylon 5
« Reply #23 on: November 15, 2009, 01:29:05 pm »
My main objection to the show in general is that it took forever for anything to happen in it.  The story is advanced so slowly that you are left feeling at the end of it that the writers really didn't have that much to say in the first place.


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Re: Babylon 5
« Reply #24 on: November 15, 2009, 01:52:19 pm »
My main objection to the show in general is that it took forever for anything to happen in it.  The story is advanced so slowly that you are left feeling at the end of it that the writers really didn't have that much to say in the first place.

You know, I'm trying to fight that myself. IT was one reason why I didn't care for the early episodes of DS9. It does look like they get of the station at times, And episode 5 with evil telekenitic Chekov was fun.

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Re: Babylon 5
« Reply #25 on: November 15, 2009, 02:13:52 pm »
My main objection to the show in general is that it took forever for anything to happen in it.  The story is advanced so slowly that you are left feeling at the end of it that the writers really didn't have that much to say in the first place.

You know, I'm trying to fight that myself. IT was one reason why I didn't care for the early episodes of DS9. It does look like they get of the station at times, And episode 5 with evil telekenitic Chekov was fun.

Stephen

The first season they are laying the basis of multiple storylines that interlink further on in the series.

The telepath line.

The theft of B4.

The conflict between Narn and Centauri.

The Morden line.

Hints of the First Ones and their significance.

Mimbari/Vorlon connection revealed but not explained.

Sinclairs "there is a hole in your mind".

Rangers mentioned more than revealed.

And so forth.  In the beginning none of these seem connected but the spider web is slowly built up.  Not everything has to be fast paced and full of space battles and explosions.  The space battles do come later for those who must have them. 

Note:  I am trying to avoid too many spoilers for Stephen.
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Re: Babylon 5
« Reply #26 on: November 15, 2009, 03:50:57 pm »
I am currently the EA commander in a turn based campaign that uses OP for battle resolution.

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I have seen the first 8 episodes of season 2 and have picked up many plot points through other means. However I don't know any of the background behind B4. Could someone fill me in or point me in the right direction (which season) to get more info on B4. In the current turn in this campaign I suspect that B4 may have just materialized near my area and I was hoping to get some info on what to expect.



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Re: Babylon 5
« Reply #27 on: November 15, 2009, 04:58:24 pm »
I am currently the EA commander in a turn based campaign that uses OP for battle resolution.

http://evensong.proboards.com/index.cgi?
http://sfbuaw.com/b52.php

I have seen the first 8 episodes of season 2 and have picked up many plot points through other means. However I don't know any of the background behind B4. Could someone fill me in or point me in the right direction (which season) to get more info on B4. In the current turn in this campaign I suspect that B4 may have just materialized near my area and I was hoping to get some info on what to expect.


Brief PM sent to avoid too many spoilers for Stephen.

Hope that helps.  Feel freee to PM me with any specific questions you may have.
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Re: Babylon 5
« Reply #28 on: November 15, 2009, 08:16:04 pm »
Thanks, that helps



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Re: Babylon 5
« Reply #29 on: November 16, 2009, 12:49:23 am »
Thanks, that helps

No problem.

They never show how it is armed but I would assume it to be similar to B5.  B5 starts off moderately armed and is upgraded later.  It does have several fighter squadrons from the beginning and extra room for more which are added later.  As I recall it has anti missile weapons along with missile launchers and some laser batteries.  It initially seemed relatively short on long range weapons but appeared to get more at the upgrade.

B5 also has internal docking and repair bays for multiple ships.
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Re: Babylon 5
« Reply #30 on: November 16, 2009, 06:17:43 pm »
On disc 5 right now, and wow, this show has grown on me big time. I'm looking forward to all the shadow war stuff coming up, and did I see the Written previews right? The commander becomes President?

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Re: Babylon 5
« Reply #31 on: November 16, 2009, 06:34:11 pm »
No.  The commander leaves the show at the beginning of season 2.  His successor Captain Sheridan who is a descendant of the civil war general eventually becomes a president.

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Re: Babylon 5
« Reply #32 on: November 16, 2009, 08:28:36 pm »
On disc 5 right now, and wow, this show has grown on me big time. I'm looking forward to all the shadow war stuff coming up, and did I see the Written previews right? The commander becomes President?

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Commander Sinclair gets a much better job, but you are going to have to wait....

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Re: Babylon 5
« Reply #33 on: November 16, 2009, 09:15:16 pm »

Commander Sinclair gets a much better job, but you are going to have to wait....

That's debatable.

*spoilers*

First off, he ends up losing his hair and getting a bone on the back of his head.  Then, when the war is over, those ingrates turn on him and his family.
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Re: Babylon 5
« Reply #34 on: November 22, 2009, 11:00:50 pm »
I dunno, he does get some nookie later on.  ;)

Personally, I was a fan of the show since I first saw the teaser trailer for the show.  When I first saw a Starfury pivot in Newtonian flight, I knew that I was going to be watching something different.  And I loved it ever since.

The characters that stayed with me were Londo, G'Kar, Marcus, Ivanova, and Sinclair.  For a few years after the show ended, I'd occasionally think of a quip or a comment and hear it in the voice and manner of a character.

I really internalized the show, and love it to bits.

Season 1 was written from the point of view of "everday crap happens, and here's some scenes from everyday life on a space trading hub".  So things might not seem connected, it's more because they weren't.  But, you started to get things laced together, and things started to get funneled to a point of fusion.  And that was the beauty of Babylon 5.

Crusade was a different animal, but only because it was killed early.  I read some of the unfilmed episodes, and tracked down some details on the season ender.  What we saw of Crusade?  Totally the first half of Season 1 of B5.  I'd read the crew of the Excaliber discover something about Earthforce that puts them on the outside, on the run.  Gideon?  Season ender has him shot and in a coma.  The source of the Technomages power.. revealed.  Things get darker and more action happens.. except, it was killed.  They do find the cure.. after Dureena's people die.  Dureena starts down the path towards becoming a Technomage.. and it's not a good path for her to take.

Lots and lots of good stuff., but we'll probably never see it now.  I will say though, Bester does die eventually.  Off-world, forgotten, alone.  Would have been shown in Crusade.  Would have been a great show.  That's what TNT didn't get, they wanted wrestling and T&A in space.. and that's why the show was shut down.
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« Reply #35 on: November 23, 2009, 08:52:15 pm »
You guys are really talking me into getting those boxed sets after all! LOL
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« Reply #36 on: November 23, 2009, 09:11:21 pm »
 If you're a fan of good Sci-Fi, then you owe to yourself to get the series, jualdeaux. You won't be disappointed. 

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« Reply #37 on: November 24, 2009, 06:24:47 am »
Oh, I've seen them all. I just don't want to spend the money right now. LOL
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Re: Babylon 5
« Reply #38 on: November 25, 2009, 01:53:19 pm »
You know?  The one set of questions I always had with the series was what happened to the Vorlon splinter that left Sheridan in Sector 14, and which Vorlon was reconning the timeline and why.
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Re: Babylon 5
« Reply #39 on: May 15, 2010, 02:50:19 am »
Well, I figured I would give an update on my viewing of this wonderful show. IT has taken me quite a long time to see what I have , as the wife keeps ordering crap on Netflix, or they seem to have certain disks out when I request them.

Anyways, I have wrapped up Season 3, Where Sheridan Nukes Laura Engels and her Crabs. I have seen the first episode of season 4 , and All I can figure, is Sheridan met the Devil at the end, As her dad Michael Landon was pissed that he killed his daughter, and used his Touched by angel folk, Called Vorlons in this series, to get some payback.

I'm still amazed that the robot couldn't protect Will Robinson from whatever horrifying Contraption That disfigured the back of his head. Londo is my favorite guy to hate right now, While G'kar is becoming my Favorite.

Anyways, I'm still loving this show, and the amount of continuity in it is amazing.

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