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I have ST Legacy original models
« on: March 10, 2010, 10:31:54 am »
ok as the titel says i got some original St Legacy ingame models and these are for now only the Romulan Battlehawk and Heavy Defender, i got them ripped out of the game eith an 3d model ripping program.
is there a problem if i release them as i didn't directly get them converted or is there no problem with this method ?? if there is not a problem with it, i can get all the models out of the game easily.

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« Reply #1 on: March 10, 2010, 11:22:15 am »
Cool news!

It's about time somebody has announced they can do this for ST: Legacy ships. I love the built in deflector on lower part of the saucer on some of the Federation ships in that game.

Why would this be a big problem? You are not selling the models. Darkdrone used to convert models from other Trek games to mod format all the time. ST: Armada I/II, Klingon Academy, Birth of The Federation all had models converted to SFC in the past.

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« Reply #2 on: March 10, 2010, 12:00:20 pm »
Cool news!

It's about time somebody has announced they can do this for ST: Legacy ships. I love the built in deflector on lower part of the saucer on some of the Federation ships in that game.

Why would this be a big problem? You are not selling the models. Darkdrone used to convert models from other Trek games to mod format all the time. ST: Armada I/II, Klingon Academy, Birth of The Federation all had models converted to SFC in the past.

OK than i think the best way to release those Legacy models is unconverted with their textures in original DDS and BMP format and someone can convert them to his liking or with advice of the HP placement from the community.
if they get the support for the DX 5 -7 into the ripping program i use, than we can finally even get the Dominion Wars models ripped and converted.

yeah my models refuse to get finished
the Klingon TMP C-7 is the only one i can convert to SFC right now, or do you meen some of my Armada models to !??

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« Reply #3 on: March 10, 2010, 01:20:43 pm »
This is very exciting news! I am interested in getting a hold of some of the Pre-TOS Fed models . . . if not all!

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« Reply #4 on: March 10, 2010, 04:26:22 pm »
Cool news!

It's about time somebody has announced they can do this for ST: Legacy ships. I love the built in deflector on lower part of the saucer on some of the Federation ships in that game.

Why would this be a big problem? You are not selling the models. Darkdrone used to convert models from other Trek games to mod format all the time. ST: Armada I/II, Klingon Academy, Birth of The Federation all had models converted to SFC in the past.

OK than i think the best way to release those Legacy models is unconverted with their textures in original DDS and BMP format and someone can convert them to his liking or with advice of the HP placement from the community.
if they get the support for the DX 5 -7 into the ripping program i use, than we can finally even get the Dominion Wars models ripped and converted.

yeah my models refuse to get finished
the Klingon TMP C-7 is the only one i can convert to SFC right now, or do you meen some of my Armada models to !??

I love all your TMP era stuff including ALL your ST: Armada work and I know I will gladly take anything you give us for SFC.

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« Reply #5 on: March 10, 2010, 04:44:49 pm »
"I've waited for this day my entire life . . ." --Nero

Please make available in 3DS or OBJ or some other universal file format. (not Max  )

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« Reply #6 on: March 11, 2010, 04:14:04 am »
"I've waited for this day my entire life . . ." --Nero

Please make available in 3DS or OBJ or some other universal file format. (not Max  )

yeah i prefer 3ds myself but it is a format that is ignoring vertex welding and i could release those models in max format but than the converter has to rearange and delete the non used parts by himself.
as max format it would be in max8 as my max5 doesn't work correct and max5 plugin is the oldest version of max plugin the 3dripper supports.

the pre TOS Yorktown is done but it needs some texture tweaks and good lightmaps as those from legacy are only 128x128 and have no glow for the windows.i tryed to fuse the bump maps with the normal texture and it looks better than the plain normal one but it just don't look like the ingame model, the color and the metallic look of the NX era is hard to achieve for me.the registry is applied with a extra mesh part that uses alphachanel and must be applied to the texture somehow to get it work in SFC 1-OP.

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« Reply #7 on: March 11, 2010, 07:41:25 am »
Terra,

Do a search for something called the Bobo File Format, or BFF. What it does is export an entire scene into a Maxscript file. You can then go back in to an earlier version of max and run the created script and it will reproduce the scene. There is only one minor glitch: in the multi/sub material it adds one to each of the material IDs (its an easy fix, just go into the material editor and fix the ID assignments).
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« Reply #8 on: March 11, 2010, 11:39:28 am »
Terra,

Do a search for something called the Bobo File Format, or BFF. What it does is export an entire scene into a Maxscript file. You can then go back in to an earlier version of max and run the created script and it will reproduce the scene. There is only one minor glitch: in the multi/sub material it adds one to each of the material IDs (its an easy fix, just go into the material editor and fix the ID assignments).

One small addendum to that: BFF doesn't work in Max9 (dunno about max8 ), also, there is a fix for that glitch you mentioned (I use it in Max3.1 mind you, max4 and on should have that fixed), I'm including that file incase someone needs it.
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« Reply #9 on: March 11, 2010, 01:51:37 pm »
There is a version that someone made that works in Max9.
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« Reply #10 on: March 13, 2010, 04:36:33 am »
ok thanx for your advices on the file format. I have decided to release them in 3DS, MS3D and maybe LWO format and useing MIlkshape and Deepexploration to do this, i will include the original maps and the ones i converted to BMP or TGA. I don't know where i will release them as my site simply has not enough space to provide them for download.

ships i got converted to 3ds right now are:
Klingon K30 Battleship
Klingon Ravenous Battleship
Klingon D14  ??Cruiser??
NX era Fed Yorktown Battleship
NX era Fed Poseidon
Fed pre TOS Daedalus
Romulan Heavy Defender Battleship/Cruiser
Romulan BattleHawk Battleship
Borg TMP Pyramid
Klingon biggest/ third shipyard

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« Reply #11 on: March 13, 2010, 07:05:27 am »
Wow! This is great news.  As I don't have Legacy I am looking forward to seeing these models.

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« Reply #12 on: March 13, 2010, 09:00:13 am »
Four more done  :
the Fed Discovery
the Fed Minuteman, this needed some work polywise as it had polys that aren't needed and caused some shading problems
the Klingon Mining Station from that mission with the BOP
the TMP Fed Proxima Battleship

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« Reply #13 on: March 13, 2010, 09:27:04 am »
Good work man. You got around to yanking any of the stations yet?

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« Reply #14 on: March 13, 2010, 10:25:08 am »
Good work man. You got around to yanking any of the stations yet?

To heck with the ST: Legacy stations. I want Terradyhne's Pirate Tortuga base and his two armed Klingon base... for starters, LOL.

Thanks for the progress report Terradyhne.

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« Reply #15 on: March 13, 2010, 05:22:41 pm »
Good work man. You got around to yanking any of the stations yet?

which stations do you want?? the Klingon third shipyard and Mining station i have yet.

Good work man. You got around to yanking any of the stations yet?

To heck with the ST: Legacy stations. I want Terradyhne's Pirate Tortuga base and his two armed Klingon base... for starters, LOL.

Thanks for the progress report Terradyhne.

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so i think you don't really want anny of the Legacy models
ok, do you even want my Klingon Starbase??

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« Reply #16 on: March 14, 2010, 12:03:08 pm »
I'd like to use the romulan and klingon stations as the base for stations for my SFM mod but can't really get a good look at them in game as the controles suck. I'd also like the Deadalus model to see if I can redress mine to look more like it. 3ds and DDS is fine

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« Reply #17 on: March 15, 2010, 03:14:09 am »
I'd like to use the romulan and klingon stations as the base for stations for my SFM mod but can't really get a good look at them in game as the controles suck. I'd also like the Deadalus model to see if I can redress mine to look more like it. 3ds and DDS is fine
OK, i think they don't realy fit the setting for a SFM Mod but i'll see what i can do for you to get them out.

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« Reply #18 on: March 15, 2010, 04:20:12 am »
Thanks man.

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« Reply #19 on: March 15, 2010, 04:35:08 pm »
Ok got the pre TOS/TOS Starbases of the Klingons and Romulans out and the Klingon TOS D-7, they need the final touchup and than they are ready to be released.
Still don't know a place where i will upload them, maybe Battleclinic or the SFC3 and A2-files sites

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« Reply #20 on: March 15, 2010, 11:19:45 pm »
Ok got the pre TOS/TOS Starbases of the Klingons and Romulans out and the Klingon TOS D-7, they need the final touchup and than they are ready to be released.
Still don't know a place where i will upload them, maybe Battleclinic or the SFC3 and A2-files sites
Make a Legacy model pack for all 3 sites ?  3ds for free program imports and let the users deal with the dds files as they can get free gimp to convert to bmp or whatever.  Just a thought
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« Reply #21 on: March 25, 2010, 04:52:43 pm »
Any progress news?

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« Reply #22 on: March 25, 2010, 05:23:22 pm »
Yes, absolutely, is there any update?  There are few FASA Roms in that game I'd like.

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« Reply #23 on: March 25, 2010, 10:36:22 pm »
Terra,

You are talking about converting stock models, yes? If so, no problem. However, if we are going to convert non-stock stuff, permissions are a must. I don't want to see another inter-game flame war starting up.
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« Reply #24 on: March 26, 2010, 12:38:16 am »
My opinion but i dont think Terra would convert user made models without premissions. Stock converts ?
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« Reply #25 on: March 26, 2010, 04:57:18 am »
My opinion but i dont think Terra would convert user made models without premissions. Stock converts ?

Terra,

You are talking about converting stock models, yes? If so, no problem. However, if we are going to convert non-stock stuff, permissions are a must. I don't want to see another inter-game flame war starting up.

No i don't convert user made work without permission, as i to want to be asked before a conversion of my models.

Any progress news?

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Yes, absolutely, is there any update?  There are few FASA Roms in that game I'd like.

i had some trouble to find the textures for the models, as the 3d ripper saves the textures with some odd numbers instead of names and i want to have the original textures for them.

I will release them in single packs for each model, as the original dds textures will make a complete pack that huge and i don't want people with slow connections to have to wait to long, to get only a single model of them.

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« Reply #26 on: March 28, 2010, 08:08:56 am »
the Romulan Heavy Defender and Battle Hawk models are up and available at Battleclinic

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« Reply #27 on: March 28, 2010, 08:47:37 am »

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Now even you want more
and no problem, its for the sake of the good ol Star Trek and its games

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« Reply #29 on: March 29, 2010, 01:29:22 pm »
Thats good knews. Are they all going to go up on Battleclinic?

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« Reply #30 on: March 30, 2010, 02:04:25 am »
yeah they will all be up on Battleclinic

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« Reply #31 on: March 30, 2010, 01:42:17 pm »
Thats cool I'll DL the station from their whenever you get them ready and put them up. Thanks!

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« Reply #32 on: April 01, 2010, 04:42:58 am »
the Klingon pre TOS/TOS Base, Mining Station and the third - biggest yard are now available on Battleclinic

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« Reply #33 on: April 01, 2010, 09:34:33 am »
I take it these stations are race-generic?
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« Reply #34 on: April 01, 2010, 10:17:32 am »
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i tryed to fuse the bump maps with the normal texture and it looks better than the plain normal one but it just don't look like the ingame model, the color and the metallic look of the NX era is hard to achieve for me.

Instead of fusing the bump map with the normal texture, darken it up so you can bearly tell the difference, and then fuse it with the light map. This is what they did on the X-ships in OP and made them really pop!

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« Reply #35 on: April 01, 2010, 10:40:36 am »
I take it these stations are race-generic?

No, these stations are all Klingon in Legacy and all are not normally available, only with the stations mod, or they are Mission specific like the mining station.

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« Reply #36 on: April 01, 2010, 10:48:13 am »
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i tryed to fuse the bump maps with the normal texture and it looks better than the plain normal one but it just don't look like the ingame model, the color and the metallic look of the NX era is hard to achieve for me.

Instead of fusing the bump map with the normal texture, darken it up so you can bearly tell the difference, and then fuse it with the light map. This is what they did on the X-ships in OP and made them really pop!

thanx for the advice, i try to darken it.
fusing it with the lightmap will not be that good, as the lightmaps for them are much smaler than the standard maps and this won't look that good.

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« Reply #37 on: April 01, 2010, 11:15:50 am »
If you scale it up with the right algorythm (I Cubic Bilinear or something) then run an emboss filter on it, you could just apply it as a Soft-light or an Overlay.
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« Reply #38 on: April 02, 2010, 11:21:39 am »
Thanks for the continued progress news Terradyhne. Now has anybody converted these to .mod format for us non-model makers?

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« Reply #39 on: April 02, 2010, 11:44:29 pm »
Sweet job Terra
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« Reply #40 on: April 16, 2010, 01:00:08 pm »
Good job man; any new progress?

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« Reply #41 on: April 17, 2010, 04:52:50 am »
Good job man; any new progress?
Sorry have the pre TOS feds, some more Klingons and Romulans converted, but no time to upload them as real life has raised its evil side for me, again.

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« Reply #42 on: April 17, 2010, 12:45:28 pm »
Hope things chill for you terra. I for one can wait. Real lfe must always come first.

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« Reply #43 on: April 17, 2010, 02:01:51 pm »
got the time to upload the Romulan TOS base to Battleclinic

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« Reply #44 on: April 18, 2010, 12:16:47 pm »
Ah nice thanks man. Keep e'm coming as you can

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« Reply #45 on: May 08, 2010, 02:45:11 pm »
I see a klingon ship made it to Battleclinic. Very nice. Anything else comming soon?

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« Reply #46 on: May 09, 2010, 07:26:07 am »
hey guys if you let me know how u doing it i can help you get all the ships and bases
ripped out of the game and setup for Sfc

got some time on my hands too help out

lets us know here or in a pm

models you done so far are looking great really nice 3d models and textures

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« Reply #47 on: May 09, 2010, 07:28:03 am »
hey guys if you let me know how u doing it i can help you get all the ships and bases
ripped out of the game and setup for Sfc

got some time on my hands too help out

lets us know here or in a pm

models you done so far are looking great really nice 3d models and textures

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Awesome news DD! You know we all welcome your help

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« Reply #48 on: May 09, 2010, 02:57:23 pm »
The Klingon D14 is now ingame flying around real nice

need abit of info on her got it scaled to the kca (stock model) does it need to be bigger?
if so can you post which stock ship its best to scale it too please

done all the light maps as well for it so she now glows too

should be uploaded by tomorrow for you all
got abit sidetracked with a retexture of it too lol not done this for yrs
forgotten how much fun it use to be

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« Reply #49 on: May 09, 2010, 04:05:59 pm »
the stock one from the game Terradyhne converted and uploaded in 3ds/lwo  now its in sfc format rdy just got to zipup and upload the files

the rexture ive been messing around with added alittle more colour and changed few bits on her

be giving both good test ingame in the morning ill upload the zips as soon as i find a place for them
and need ok off Terradyhne too post as well

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« Reply #50 on: May 09, 2010, 06:31:36 pm »
Nice work DD.

The D-14 scale would be good at the STOCK KCA size. Maybe this will be one of the TOS style Klingons FoaS will end up working on.

Always good to see more Klingon ships FASA inspired or not.

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« Reply #51 on: May 09, 2010, 10:05:29 pm »
Looks great, guys

Not sure where I would use it. It doesn't sit well with what I had in mind for TOS klinks. Maybe an X-Ship of sorts. I actually really like how grungy it is, though... hmmmm
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« Reply #52 on: May 10, 2010, 01:59:56 am »
ok got the D30 (file name k30) ingame flying around

so two ships all done and rdy to go

also did a grey verion to match the other ship the d14 will add both in zipfile

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« Reply #53 on: May 10, 2010, 05:25:16 am »
ok the 3rd klingon ship is now ingame Ravenous_BC

also a green verion of this one (tng look)

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« Reply #54 on: May 10, 2010, 05:31:45 am »
updated the green verision abit added warpglows to outside as well and added abitmore colour here and there

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« Reply #55 on: May 10, 2010, 05:51:26 am »
ok got the D30 (file name k30) ingame flying around

so two ships all done and rdy to go

also did a grey verion to match the other ship the d14 will add both in zipfile

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Having never seen this model before, I have to ask:

Are those warp engines on backwards?

If not, anybody have a ST Legacy in game shot of this?

This design has potential but those warp engines have to go... please kitbash an upgrade with another set of Klingon warp engines. I recommend the Ravenous_BC  warp engines.

Nice work DD!

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« Reply #56 on: May 10, 2010, 10:52:22 am »
Very interesting ships.I'm not 100% sold on the warp engines being that I'm a tradtionalist I'd prefer more standard types.that being said I do like these and def would use them.Thanks for the work that you put into these.

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« Reply #57 on: May 11, 2010, 11:49:19 am »
When might we see these guys posted? (And where?) They will make great Klingon pirates.

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« Reply #58 on: May 11, 2010, 05:56:53 pm »
I don't see an issue with porting stock models, but its up to terra to decide whether or not he wants to spill the beans. Porting third-party models? Make sure you grab permissions from people over in the legacy community. The last thing I want to do is yell at people for starting forum wars.
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Re: I have ST Legacy original models
« Reply #59 on: May 11, 2010, 07:18:50 pm »
ok got the D30 (file name k30) ingame flying around

so two ships all done and rdy to go

also did a grey verion to match the other ship the d14 will add both in zipfile

DD

Having never seen this model before, I have to ask:

Are those warp engines on backwards?

If not, anybody have a ST Legacy in game shot of this?

This design has potential but those warp engines have to go... please kitbash an upgrade with another set of Klingon warp engines. I recommend the Ravenous_BC  warp engines.

Nice work DD!

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Okay those warp engines really have to go! Its worth repeating since I feel that strongly about it.
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« Reply #60 on: May 12, 2010, 12:53:34 am »
ok KF will do m8 ill do verion with diffrent  warp engines just for u

cant put them for download till i get the ok off Terra just going to have to wait till he checks the forums
i know he is a busy man with work

as for how they getting the ships out of the game i have no idea hoping they let me know so i get
going on it doing for them for  sfc.

just hoping he share with me how he get them out of game so i do it aswell to speed things up

will do the 2 romulan ships this week so they rdy for download as well as soon as i get the ok

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« Reply #61 on: May 12, 2010, 12:56:31 am »
i think everything is still awaiting the A-Ok from Terra, then they will go on battleclinic and maybe SFC3files, depends where DD uploads them too.... DD can you do me a favor and possibly export me a Background "space" model and maybe a couple of the asteroids (i have the textures) when you find time please

Or maybe share the secret for porting. I know infraview can do a nice batch conversion of the textures. So can either you or Terra let us know?? We could maybe add it into the tutorial thread or something??  What do you think Fury, is that allowed?

ill see what i can do still tracking down alot of my software from disks right now using gmax and photoshop 7 and Ultimate Unwrap3D for most things too do with porting been few yrs since i really done anything for sfc

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« Reply #62 on: May 12, 2010, 03:36:38 am »
ok KF will do m8 ill do verion with diffrent  warp engines just for u

cant put them for download till i get the ok off Terra just going to have to wait till he checks the forums
i know he is a busy man with work

as for how they getting the ships out of the game i have no idea hoping they let me know so i get
going on it doing for them for  sfc.

just hoping he share with me how he get them out of game so i do it aswell to speed things up

will do the 2 romulan ships this week so they rdy for download as well as soon as i get the ok

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I don't see a problem with you releasing your reworks as i only ported them to file types the community could use but thanx for asking for permission and waiting for me posting here. permission granted as i'm not the maker of those models.
the K30 is even the K30 ingame in Legacy and yes those nacelles are that way on that ship. for sizeing i'd suggest to use the windows as size base to size the models most correctly.

i use a program named 3d Ripper DX to get them into 3ds Max, you can get it here:http://www.deep-shadows.com/hax/3DRipperDX.htm#quickstart
they have a new version with DX6 support in beta phase and support for newer versions of max but no support for gmax (sorry DD), the lowest version of max this supports is max 5
if you got some models ripped with this program you still have to do some work as it exports a scene and those models are mostly angled so you have to re position them, delete the damage mesh, the bump map mesh and the glow map mesh as you don't need that crap for SFC or other games.
i tryed the last version of 3d Ripper DX on my Star Trek Dominion Wars version but the game gets only to the main menu and than it kicks me out (even without useing 3D Ripper DX on it), if someone of you has it working he should be able to ripp models and the textures out of this game to.

the models i already have ripped but not done yet to get them uploaded are:
NX-era Fed Poseidon destroyer
NX-era Fed Yorktown Battleship
pre TOS Daedalus
TMP-era Borg Pyramid

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Re: I have ST Legacy original models
« Reply #63 on: May 12, 2010, 08:59:45 am »
thanks terra will upload them soon

as for 3d ripper tryed it few days ago had idea it was that one but cant seem to get it working with that game
all i ever gets is

EXCEPTION:    ACCESS VIOLATION
0x00657b23
0x00000001
EAX:031e6fcch ESI:00a9012eh
EBX:00000000h EDI:00000000h
ECX:000016d0h EBP:031e6f74h
EDX:00000026h ESP:0012db14h
EIP:00657b23h EID:00000000h
SS: 00000023h CS: 0000001bh
DS: 00000023h FS: 0000003bh
ES: 00000023h GS: 00000000h
Flags: 00010246h  CF:0 PF:1 AF:0 ZF:1 SF:0 OF:0

did this happen to you first time u tryed?
or any ideas on how to fix this bug

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« Reply #64 on: May 12, 2010, 11:30:23 am »
is this the new version you use as i use the older 1.7 version and it works for me on Legacy or do you have it running under WinVista or Win7 ??
if you run it under Vista or Win7 than maybe it uses DirectX 10 to run Legacy and this is not working with 3d Ripper DX as it only supports DirectX 6,8 and 9.
this Access Violation message i only got on games that run under OpenGl or on a DirectX version the game doesn't support.

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« Reply #65 on: May 12, 2010, 11:43:20 am »
WOW! So ideally you can use this program to run just about any game that has 3D models and then rip them out? That is amazing! The possibilities are endless!

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« Reply #66 on: May 12, 2010, 01:28:47 pm »
kk thxs terra running WinVista which means dx10 is running my games

why its not working for me tryed 1.7 and 1.8

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« Reply #67 on: May 12, 2010, 01:31:01 pm »
when you get time if u upload what u  got so far i can finish them off for u
can handle 3ds/lwo or obj files right now

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« Reply #68 on: May 12, 2010, 02:38:12 pm »
when you get time if u upload what u  got so far i can finish them off for u
can handle 3ds/lwo or obj files right now

DD

the upload has to wait some days as i upgrade my complete PC tomorrow and if it works it will run with Win XP and Win 7 as a multiboot system, as most of my programs and some games i use don't run under Win 7.

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« Reply #69 on: May 13, 2010, 10:38:43 am »
OK i didn't have enough time to work on my PC and to upgrade it, will do this hopefully on the weekend and decided to upload more of those Legacy models. the Klingon TOS D-3 and D-7 plus the NX-era Minuteman destroyer are available on Battleclinic, maybe i upload some more later or tomorrow.

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« Reply #70 on: May 13, 2010, 03:11:18 pm »
awesome program, thanks for the link Terra.

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« Reply #71 on: May 14, 2010, 02:37:19 am »

will start on KFs refit this afternoon and porting the  NX-era Minuteman destroyer as well
should be rdy by the morning

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« Reply #72 on: May 14, 2010, 02:38:57 am »
this is because you got into WoW, if i recall......

yeah lol am still very heavy into the game playing way too much of it

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« Reply #73 on: May 15, 2010, 12:54:33 am »

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« Reply #74 on: May 15, 2010, 11:15:41 am »

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« Reply #75 on: May 15, 2010, 12:12:08 pm »
Borg Pyramid Tmp

also changed base texture one it was using did not look right too me

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« Reply #76 on: May 15, 2010, 03:44:40 pm »
Nice TMP Borg ships. The retextures look great FW!

Now if we can get Terradyhne to let DD convert his ST: Armada ships/bases after this ....
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« Reply #77 on: May 15, 2010, 03:52:16 pm »
got the stl bases left to do and 2 romulans and 2 klingons then just case of waiting for terra to upload more when hes got time
hoping for the deadulus class next

yeah the tmp borg are kind of strange got few ideas for them for better looking ships
but got too say the modeling on them is pretty nice

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« Reply #78 on: May 17, 2010, 02:53:01 am »
on a good note just got 3dmax installed and running on vista very old version of max but i know it well
so porting the 3ds files to .mod just got easyer

no more putting up with gmax crashing all the time

plus i get back to modeling my own stuff too

will be working on the romulan ships this afternoon should be up tomorrow for download

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« Reply #79 on: May 18, 2010, 10:21:45 am »
max 3.1 just deleted the iptex.dll i think it was called was stopping max from loading up was just hanging there all hte time
removed it and it loaded just fine and works too :

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« Reply #80 on: May 19, 2010, 02:10:25 am »

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« Reply #81 on: May 19, 2010, 03:34:49 am »

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« Reply #82 on: May 21, 2010, 04:50:45 am »
Ok i'm back again with a upgraded running system, i have still some programms and games that must be reinstalled. the already ripped models have been backuped and i started to work on them but i still have little time to work on them these days.
maybe i get some more done and uploaded on the weekend, especially the Deadalus and Yorktown models so much are wanting.

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« Reply #83 on: May 21, 2010, 10:15:34 am »
Ok i'm back again with a upgraded running system, i have still some programms and games that must be reinstalled. the already ripped models have been backuped and i started to work on them but i still have little time to work on them these days.
maybe i get some more done and uploaded on the weekend, especially the Deadalus and Yorktown models so much are wanting.

Great to hear

sitting and waiting like a kid at xmas lol

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« Reply #84 on: May 24, 2010, 06:54:39 am »
the Daedalus and Yorktown models are now up at Battleclinic, go there and get em !!

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« Reply #85 on: May 24, 2010, 08:24:00 am »

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« Reply #86 on: May 24, 2010, 11:50:31 am »

DD

For a STOCK Trek game model, that actually looks very good. I wonder if P81 made that one...
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« Reply #87 on: May 24, 2010, 11:54:28 am »

DD

For a STOCK Trek game model, that actually looks very good. I wonder if P81 made that one...

maybe he made the model but the texture's aren't in his style of textures.

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« Reply #88 on: May 25, 2010, 03:16:47 am »
i got some more models ripped at the weekend and those makers of Legacy have been some kind of idiotic as i ripped the FASA Romulan Hunter and they have textures named R_Hunter in there but those are for the NX-era Romulan Bop.
i found the right textures named as R_ENT_Hunter, those guys must have been drunk as they gave the names to the textures.

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« Reply #89 on: May 25, 2010, 09:00:11 am »
great to hear more are on the way

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« Reply #90 on: May 25, 2010, 03:04:07 pm »
yes DD i'm working on the Romulans, sorry Feddie fans but the Romulans need more new models than the Feds and yeah the NX-era poseidon will be out soon to.

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« Reply #91 on: May 26, 2010, 09:35:43 am »
Good to know more are on the way

also

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« Reply #92 on: May 26, 2010, 10:23:14 am »

Just did a kitbash off the yorktown done a enterprise type version added to the download topic for anyone that like to fly her around

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« Reply #93 on: May 26, 2010, 02:41:39 pm »
you guys are doing a great job on these, how long does it take to pull a ship out? i assume the ship has to be on screen for you to grab it correct? how many ships have you gotten so far?

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« Reply #94 on: May 28, 2010, 11:48:49 am »
the Federation NX-era Poseidon is up on battleclinic

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« Reply #95 on: May 29, 2010, 01:21:25 am »
Ty terra added to do list

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« Reply #96 on: June 04, 2010, 11:02:13 am »
Sorry for the delay guys works been really busy of late just added to the download topic

daedalus class (tos)

and
the daedalus  refit (tos) (kitbash)

Just waiting on few more off terra ill do the other one the weekend i should get the time to do it then

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« Reply #97 on: June 05, 2010, 02:35:47 am »
Just finished up a Alternate universe Iss daedulas (Retexture)

for anyone who likes playing on the darkside of the federation

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« Reply #98 on: June 05, 2010, 04:00:04 pm »

retexture of the refit too

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« Reply #99 on: June 09, 2010, 02:24:59 am »
Terra check e-mail when you can stuff you wanted done been sent back all done for you

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« Reply #100 on: June 09, 2010, 06:00:19 am »
Terra check e-mail when you can stuff you wanted done been sent back all done for you

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Awesome! More stuff must be on the way...
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« Reply #101 on: June 10, 2010, 04:57:38 am »
Terra check e-mail when you can stuff you wanted done been sent back all done for you

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« Reply #102 on: June 12, 2010, 12:01:27 am »

just waiting on terra to upload more ships now so i carry on doing them run out

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« Reply #103 on: June 20, 2010, 04:34:51 am »
i added the Romulan TOS Hunter to the communitydocks at Battleclinic, the Romulan Gryphon and Winged Defender will be next which get uploaded there

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« Reply #104 on: June 20, 2010, 08:05:19 am »
i added the Romulan TOS Hunter to the communitydocks at Battleclinic, the Romulan Gryphon and Winged Defender will be next which get uploaded there

ill get  working on it right away

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« Reply #105 on: June 21, 2010, 07:16:14 am »
I got all the Klingon, Borg, and Romulan ships converted to 3DS still have some feds to get. I grabbed all the textures out of the textures folder in the Legacy install folder i found it much easier to use those as opposed  to trying to figure out which ones go with what ship in the 3D ripper folder.

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« Reply #106 on: June 21, 2010, 11:32:48 am »
The Romulan Gryphon and Winged Defender got uploaded to Battleclinic

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thats good to hear, so you can upload the missing one's after you have all ripped and converted ??

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« Reply #107 on: June 21, 2010, 12:17:31 pm »
The Romulan Gryphon and Winged Defender got uploaded to Battleclinic

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thats good to hear, so you can upload the missing one's after you have all ripped and converted ??

let me know what you all need i can only do 3DS format and textures are all BMP. i haven't applied the textures in Max yet but that shouldn't be to much of a hassle.

i have been using the models to make templates for physical models using Pepakura. they are coming out quite nicely too.

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« Reply #108 on: June 23, 2010, 07:01:50 am »
The Romulan Gryphon and Winged Defender got uploaded to Battleclinic

@ wulf111:
thats good to hear, so you can upload the missing one's after you have all ripped and converted ??

let me know what you all need i can only do 3DS format and textures are all BMP. i haven't applied the textures in Max yet but that shouldn't be to much of a hassle.

If you upload. 3ds and bmps that be great

I start doing them all the weekend just got a iPad so a little busy :p
Just posted this on it

Thxs both for the hard work ripping them

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i have been using the models to make templates for physical models using Pepakura. they are coming out quite nicely too.

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« Reply #109 on: June 30, 2010, 02:30:01 am »

sorry for the delay works been very busy and that ipad just keeps calling to me lol

working on starbases/yards and such next that  terra posted awhile back

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« Reply #110 on: June 30, 2010, 02:32:43 am »
wulf111 any you do too help out terra ripping wise that be great you can upload the 3ds and bmps to battleclinic or e-mail them right too
me so i finish them off to sfc

all help is more then welcome

my email is darkdrone01@hotamail.com if you want too e-mail them over too save time

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« Reply #111 on: June 30, 2010, 10:51:44 am »
Got the minning base done and a nice outpost kitbash done too using the parts
also the klingon shipyard is almost rdy just got few things to sort out for it

also done a green version of the minning outpost as well just incase someone wants a green version

Shipyard  reworking the textures and modeling some new parts in it for a updated version of it
Kf needs somewhere to park his flagship you know for repairs after blowing up all them feds ships

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« Reply #112 on: June 30, 2010, 03:55:06 pm »
sweet. we always need more stations
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« Reply #113 on: June 30, 2010, 06:16:01 pm »
sweet. we always need more stations

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Re: I have ST Legacy original models
« Reply #114 on: June 30, 2010, 08:34:33 pm »
ummmmm....sure!! lol, i forgot entirely about it >.<
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Re: I have ST Legacy original models
« Reply #115 on: July 07, 2010, 01:15:28 am »
Ok the klingon minning outpost and new kitbashed Outpost been posted in the download topic

also been working on the klingon shipyard rexturing it just to start wip below

got alittle modeling i want to add to it for few extra bits

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Re: I have ST Legacy original models
« Reply #116 on: July 11, 2010, 08:06:37 pm »
That's a great shipyard - I'm love that the other races are getting support units

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Re: I have ST Legacy original models
« Reply #117 on: August 18, 2010, 03:42:31 pm »
BUMP for news. I like the ship docks.
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Re: I have ST Legacy original models
« Reply #118 on: August 19, 2010, 12:12:43 pm »
Just waiting on Terra to rip out more so we carry on doing them.

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Re: I have ST Legacy original models
« Reply #119 on: August 19, 2010, 12:16:10 pm »
I can only download some of them, the other have errors, when i try to extract them some files are corrupt or missing, Ive re-downloaded many time but i get some crazy error message about the server resetting, any ideas guy??? They are so nice, especially the stations...

The files but no one reported problem with them so far

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Re: I have ST Legacy original models
« Reply #120 on: August 19, 2010, 06:46:27 pm »
How about the planets or space textures from ST: Legacy? Surely they can be converted DD?
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Re: I have ST Legacy original models
« Reply #121 on: August 23, 2010, 05:46:06 am »
BUMP

Anything new?

I'd like to see a post for the ST:Legacy planets or at least their texture sets.
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Re: I have ST Legacy original models
« Reply #122 on: August 23, 2010, 01:36:11 pm »
I'd like to see a post for the ST:Legacy planets or at least their texture sets.
If you want to have the Legacy Planets than you have to use the whole models as they are textured in some idiotic way, with four or eight textures for the middle part and one for each top and bottom cap section.
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Re: I have ST Legacy original models
« Reply #123 on: August 23, 2010, 03:46:49 pm »
That is not a proc issue terra, more likely software.  when you say upgraded do you mean bought new computer or swapped out parts?
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Re: I have ST Legacy original models
« Reply #124 on: August 23, 2010, 10:20:48 pm »
That is not a proc issue terra, more likely software.  when you say upgraded do you mean bought new computer or swapped out parts?
Some amd systems allow more user friendly programs to work vrs intell products from past use.  Im not sure if its a windows thing or the way the processors works. Some ppl i know have a better 64 bit experiance with amd products they tell me intell blows. Its all on what your used too and how to tweek your own pc to fit it all i guess  For me it was always amd untill the vista intell now i have issues with stock model files with sfc go figure. Its all about the know how to fix it  .
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