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http://buzzaldrin.com/space-vision/rocket_science/starbooster/

a very interesting design concept. very modular and flexible depending on mission objectives. i like it. give it a look
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looks interesting.
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I hope they get it done. The shuttle fleet is all but dead now only a few flights left and we cant trust the russians to get us up there.
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I don't like this concept at all.  The Challenger and the Columbia were destroyed by the consequences of the booster arrangement.  This concept differs by putting two orbiters in peril at the same time.
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I don't like this concept at all.  The Challenger and the Columbia were destroyed by the consequences of the booster arrangement.  This concept differs by putting two orbiters in peril at the same time.

I'm sure the designers have considered that and taken steps to mitigate any danger based on specific points in the findings.
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I believe in the KISS principle.  This looks complicated.
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I believe in the KISS principle.  This looks complicated.

LOL, Well it is Rocket Science. :D :D :D

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actually it is quite simple much simpler than nasa method. nasa tries to make 1 vehicle do everything. this method has a few designs to best match mission parameters. quite ingenius if you ask me
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Interesting, but nothing really new with the concept.  It is how we work with our current medium to heavy lift vehicles.  Take the Atlas V or Delta IV for example, our current evolve expendable lift vehicles (EELV) - It can be conifigure multiple ways to achieve the the mission parameters (hell there has been talk of man rating an atlas V).

as i said, interesting concept, not exactly revolutionary. 
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Interesting, but nothing really new with the concept.  It is how we work with our current medium to heavy lift vehicles.  Take the Atlas V or Delta IV for example, our current evolve expendable lift vehicles (EELV) - It can be conifigure multiple ways to achieve the the mission parameters (hell there has been talk of man rating an atlas V).

as i said, interesting concept, not exactly revolutionary. 

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I don't like this concept at all.  The Challenger and the Columbia were destroyed by the consequences of the booster arrangement.  This concept differs by putting two orbiters in peril at the same time.

It actually has nothing to do with the booster arrangment, and more to a) a fault in the booster itself or b) material weaknesses.  The arrangment itself is a sound one, and has been used alot over the past 40 years.  Of course the fact of the matter is until we can develop a technology that can get us to orbit quick and easy with out the need of volatile fuels there will always be inheret dangers involved with sending men into space.  Frankly I think people need to get over this one fact and quit being panzies so we can actually progress in space.  Then, just maybe, we can get to the point where going to space is just as safe as any other human method of transportation.
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I believe in the KISS principle.  This looks complicated.

there is no such thing as 'simple' when it comes to rockets.

edit: rockets as in those capable of putting  a manmade payload or a human into orbit ;).
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a mile long artillery piece.  Nice simple, Boom, in space.  :D
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a mile long artillery piece.  Nice simple, Boom, in space.  :D

lol, well ya, simple concept, but not simple to do though.
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there is no such thing as 'simple' when it comes to rockets.


Simplicity, in my view, is limitting the number of components making up the vehicle.  This is obvious.

Marstone has a point.  It is possible to launch a payload to orbit from a howitzer.  If you remember, Iraq, under Sadam Husein started such a program.  The payloads would overfly Israel.  I think he had a plan to dispose of his arsenal of chemical weapons by sending them into space.  An accident there could have been bad.
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there is no such thing as 'simple' when it comes to rockets.


Simplicity, in my view, is limitting the number of components making up the vehicle.  This is obvious.

Marstone has a point.  It is possible to launch a payload to orbit from a howitzer.  If you remember, Iraq, under Sadam Husein started such a program.  The payloads would overfly Israel.  I think he had a plan to dispose of his arsenal of chemical weapons by sending them into space.  An accident there could have been bad.

There was a movie/Documentary about that Giant gun also, But darned if I can remember the name of it. Now I got to go digging around for it.

Thanks for reminding me of that, I believe it was an HBO film.

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