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Baseline - an EAW testing and fun server
« on: November 20, 2010, 09:42:08 am »
Pretty much like the topic says. Stock. Baseline. Blow stuff up. Test Vista and 7. Report, discuss, argue, smack talk... etc..

But seriously, this is data collection for EAW 2036 server running on SQL and the behaviour of the current EAW 2036 client on Vista/7/8.

I may start back-porting the oci. I'll post and observations discoveries or progress here. Please do so also if you find anything interesting.

I have yet to get my EAW client re-installed properly on Vista and XP and so have not logged in yet.

Edit: got my EAW client installed and patched on vista (to C:\SFC\...)  running the setup.exe from the CD in XP compat as admin and then the same for the patch. (and don't forget the directory server change)

Logged in and it appears that EAW on vista suffers the exact same problems as OP. Kinda good news.
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Re: Baseline - an EAW testing and fun server
« Reply #1 on: November 20, 2010, 11:52:39 am »
Will have to reinstall eaw. Will be good to see how that game runs again, and compare differences between it and op. I don't remember anymore.
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Re: Baseline - an EAW testing and fun server
« Reply #2 on: November 20, 2010, 02:12:26 pm »
It was a bit of a trip down memory lane for me.  :)

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Re: Baseline - an EAW testing and fun server
« Reply #3 on: November 20, 2010, 03:40:54 pm »
I remember the camera system in top down view is better than OP. I will never be as great a captain in OP as I was in EAW because the camera systems horrible change in OP. I hate the OP camera changes... hate em.

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Re: Baseline - an EAW testing and fun server
« Reply #4 on: November 20, 2010, 04:21:36 pm »
Maqke a note. Don't change camera system. ;)
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Re: Baseline - an EAW testing and fun server
« Reply #5 on: November 20, 2010, 09:11:38 pm »
Crap - I don't even have EAW anymore...
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Re: Baseline - an EAW testing and fun server
« Reply #6 on: November 21, 2010, 12:07:30 am »
Love EAW. Love camera system. Would like Itorps to behave like in OP tho. Got to find my EAW copy...

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Re: Baseline - an EAW testing and fun server
« Reply #7 on: November 21, 2010, 01:59:47 am »
Dizzy....  want me to send you the EAW server DB files.... the Tavern EAW servers been runnin for close to a year now with no reboot & minor cleanin, should have some helpful data....  though, not usin SQl... still may be useful...

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Re: Baseline - an EAW testing and fun server
« Reply #8 on: November 21, 2010, 02:01:55 am »
Oops....  see previous post ...    Bonk AND Dizzy.....   :banghead:

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Re: Baseline - an EAW testing and fun server
« Reply #9 on: November 21, 2010, 03:36:23 am »
Dizzy....  want me to send you the EAW server DB files.... the Tavern EAW servers been runnin for close to a year now with no reboot & minor cleanin, should have some helpful data....  though, not usin SQl... still may be useful...

Sure... there might be some clues in there about Vista/7 client issues and it can't hurt to have a good sized sample database to play with. Send it along to my email. (and logs if you keep them)

I think I'll start converting the OCI to EAW today... I wonder how messy that will get? Should be a good exercise and review on the differences.

edit: the conversion of the OCI back to EAW is going pretty smooth, too easy. I guess it makes sense. I started the whole thing on EAW 2036 and then moved it to OP... It is built pretty well, though oddly. I think I'll just be able to use the same script and set a gametype config value and add a few conditionals here and there...
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Re: Baseline - an EAW testing and fun server
« Reply #10 on: November 21, 2010, 06:12:09 am »
dOES the ED DBeditor we use in OP work on EAW?

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Re: Baseline - an EAW testing and fun server
« Reply #11 on: November 21, 2010, 06:55:05 am »
Um, not sure... but I have EAW flatfile parsers of old floating around somewhere if I dig. I know I have a cleaner somewhere but not sure about edits. I doubt it would be hard to modify EDDBEDIT to handle the EAW flatfile too if it does not already. But this is running on SQL and EAW2036 was quite stable on it. (if we had a gang to load test it... to reprove it now...)


edit: checked dave's page: http://www3.telus.net/NuclearWessels/sfc/
http://www3.telus.net/NuclearWessels/sfc/downloads/EDDBEDIT.exe
http://www3.telus.net/NuclearWessels/sfc/downloads/EDDBEDITeaw.exe
There's an EAW editor... not sure if it is as fresh as the new OP editor that is floating around but I imagine it will work.

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Re: Baseline - an EAW testing and fun server
« Reply #12 on: November 21, 2010, 09:17:27 am »
Making good progress on making the OCI able understand the EAW db as well. I'd forgotten (never knew?) about pirate control of hexes on the empire map in EAW (fed blue on the oci map atm). The server setup is pretty much stock (default AI). It is interesting to watch the AI on the map / in the news... the pirates and some races have taken a few hexes...

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Re: Baseline - an EAW testing and fun server
« Reply #13 on: November 21, 2010, 03:54:51 pm »
Yeah, we need to turn that sh*t down. Dunna want AI affecting hexes at all if we can help it.

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Re: Baseline - an EAW testing and fun server
« Reply #14 on: November 21, 2010, 05:31:19 pm »
'Course, but this is a "stock" - "Baseline" test. Once we have a vista client working, then on to the usual server setups. ;)

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Re: Baseline - an EAW testing and fun server
« Reply #15 on: November 22, 2010, 11:54:44 am »
XP pro only here. I ran a few missions. AI plays a more agressive ECM/ECCM game than in OP.
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Re: Baseline - an EAW testing and fun server
« Reply #16 on: November 22, 2010, 12:27:04 pm »
Wow! I might have to dig out EAW this weekend, patch it and come get blown up! Great news!
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Re: Baseline - an EAW testing and fun server
« Reply #17 on: November 22, 2010, 12:48:07 pm »
<S> Remember the server directory update. I forgot my first try. It's in the sfc downloads section here.
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Re: Baseline - an EAW testing and fun server
« Reply #18 on: November 22, 2010, 01:31:26 pm »
can someone please give me exact directions to get there, I would like to try this out too...

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Re: Baseline - an EAW testing and fun server
« Reply #19 on: November 22, 2010, 07:36:53 pm »
load CDs 1&2 of EAW

click on FTP directory at top right of screen

click on sfc2 eaw

click on patches for the 2002-2036 patch

go back to directory and click on sfc op and patches to find server directory update
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