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Ten Forward / Re: Happy Thanksgiving 2025!
« Last post by Starfox1701 on December 09, 2025, 02:28:52 pm »Happy Holidays
Vulcan and Ariane 6 both flew last night. Apparently successful in both.
Blue Origin now has Project Jarvis. Makes me wonder if he sees himself as a real life Tony Stark (Stark = Iron Man and Jarvis is his AI that he uses for designing and operating his armour). He must REALLY hate that people call Musk the real life Tony Stark.
So what IS Bezos Jarvis? It is a attempt to build a fully reusable 2nd stage to the New Glenn rocket, I don't know if they are eliminating the planned fairings. Like Starship it is stainless steel. They have a test tank very like the early Starship tanks. How do you think Cape Canaveral will appreciate Bezos blowing up test tanks on their property? SpaceX blew up theirs on their own test site not NASA grounds. New Glenn is about 75 feet shorter than Starship and only 7 meters diameter vs 9 meters for Starship.
New Glenn is planned to fly with the expendable 2nd stage until "the mid 2020s" when Jarvis will replace it. There are also comments that without a reusable 2nd they won't be able to launch at a profit but will lose money every launch. It also seems to reduce the planned cargo from 50 tons to 38 tons. This puts it squarely in the F9/FH market and far less than the Starship at 150 tons.
Functionally this is Bezos endorsing Starship.
B.O. has moved the New Glenn EscaPADE launch up to October so maybe they will prove me wrong and launch again this year.
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Backed out to November now.
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Flight 2 - Sun • Nov 9th, 2025
The static fire has occurred so MAYBE it will happen on the current schedule.
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Fri • Nov 7th, 2025 2:51 PM - 4:50 PM EST
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Sun • Nov 9th, 2025 2:45 PM - 4:44 PM EST