Topic: Where's my rating? (Read 19988 times)

Aenigma · « **on:** February 05, 2003, 01:23:09 pm »

I noticed my nice stars disappeared. Three people rated me, and i got four stars..... Boohoo where are they? The night is so dark without these stars

Jackal99 · « **Reply #1 on:** February 05, 2003, 01:38:57 pm »

hmm... seems everyone has lost his rating

DONOTDELETE · « **Reply #2 on:** February 05, 2003, 01:43:57 pm »

Quote:

I noticed my nice stars disappeared. Three people rated me, and i got four stars..... Boohoo where are they? The night is so dark without these stars

Here you go. Have 5

*****

Enjoy

TalonClaw · « **Reply #3 on:** February 05, 2003, 01:45:49 pm »

Maybe it's turned off?

ChamadaIV · « **Reply #5 on:** February 05, 2003, 04:12:17 pm »

Swords and 5 * * * * *s for everyone, rejoice!!!

-the preceeding was inspired from the character Minsc in the PC game Baldur's Gate II...

now back to our regular programming already in progress...

MarianoDT · « **Reply #6 on:** February 05, 2003, 04:16:29 pm »

When i loose something, i always search in my pockets.

Cruis.In · « **Reply #7 on:** February 05, 2003, 05:12:26 pm »

well here is your answer.

as a veteran of these forums, ( note my reg date, almost 3 years ago) that date was around when we switched to these forums from the old message boards at interplay. those boards sucked, interms of finding a post a few days old.

anyway getting back, as a veteran i requested the rating system be removed, because people like blitzkrieg a member for one week were giving veterans like me one star because i had to tell him a stern from a bow.

which doesn't reflect my true value as the veteran I am.

taldren honoured my request in the standing of respecting a long time community member.

3dot14 · « **Reply #8 on:** February 05, 2003, 05:19:44 pm »

No offence to Cruis.In intended, I want to emphasize that Cruis.In's view does not necassarily reflect all veteran players. (I know a few players who do not hold this opinion.)
A new player has just as much right to critisize someone's claims as a veteran, after all we were all newbie once.

Not all of the veterans have this "we know better than you" attitude (Or NannerSlug will have a field day with his "elitism" stickers...)

But without having the stars doesn't bother me at all...

Jackal99 · « **Reply #9 on:** February 05, 2003, 06:18:48 pm »

Cruis.In, everybody should be proud about something he has done. but in real life, being a member of a forum for over 3 years is no real achievement, you won´t earn a single coin with that...
just think about it

Cruis.In · « **Reply #10 on:** February 05, 2003, 06:26:55 pm »

i have many achievements. and I am not so insecure that I have to list them for you.

my post reeked of sarcasm, go read it again. if you thought it was serious, then well.....i really have no advice I could give you on how to lighten up.

not surprising that someone who came here two weeks ago would tell me that I can't earn a single coin with my achievement of being here three years.

I've earned more than a single coin my boy...i got a starship.

Jackal99 · « **Reply #11 on:** February 05, 2003, 06:37:54 pm »

well, a starship is nice.... but i hope it is at least a heavy cruiser ... i won´t accept anything else as an achievement

Blitzkrieg · « **Reply #12 on:** February 05, 2003, 06:48:16 pm »

Wow my name was mentioned, yes someone gave me a few starts then someone voted me down, big deal. Someone got a bee in there bonet eh? I may be new to these boards but Im more of an all around "veteran" when it comes to play computer games.

Its like CGA, computer games anonymouse, i have a problem...

you

only joking dont take it so seriously

...too many spelling mistakes to correct captain

Aves · « **Reply #13 on:** February 05, 2003, 07:21:09 pm »

I never had any stars, really don't care if they're gone, couldn't care less if they come back... but I can understand that people who "earned" their way up to a solid 4-5 star rating would be upset when they're no longer there. But if we're getting rid of stars, shouldn't we get rid of post numbers and ranks too (just play'n devil's advocate)?

Cruis.In · « **Reply #14 on:** February 05, 2003, 08:18:01 pm »

heh, blitzkrieg i seen you on some server which was it.

i played triangle, activision B, and am on sfc3.net now.

btw, i suck, because look i have been here 3 years but have posted less than 270 times. hahaahaha

i am only around when i am on vacation or sick. now im sick. also i mainly drift in and out as the different sfc fade, sfc2 held nothing for me after the triangle 2.0 server was taken down due to frustration with rule breakers, the campaign was so good.

back now for sfc3, gone when bored...only to pay visits instead of posting.

so infact someone with 6 months here could be more valued because they may be a modeller, and contribute something tangible. i contribute nothing but discussion on the game.

which reminds me, go to d3 experiences, im posting a new thread. about big ships.

what was the point to my post?

begin federation encryption methods.

ihts ospt si eutr nda cortcre.

end decryption ;P

ZTempest · « **Reply #15 on:** February 06, 2003, 07:12:04 am »

Test...to see if any stars come up next to my name. I sort of doubt it

Blitzkrieg · « **Reply #17 on:** February 06, 2003, 07:36:11 am »

Yeah I quite liked it, its like kudos from your piers

KRolling · « **Reply #18 on:** February 06, 2003, 07:40:18 am »

<Rolling pulls out guitar and starts singing>

Where have all the stars gone?
Long time passing
Where have all the stars go-o-one?
Long time agoooo....

Cruis.In · « **Reply #22 on:** February 06, 2003, 02:53:51 pm »

likkerpig was always a cool fella, too bad he was banned. someone must have been real mad at him.

Harold Nez · « **Reply #23 on:** February 06, 2003, 03:24:08 pm »

This may sound harsh, but I simply can't invision ever caring about how a person on UBB board "likes" or "dislikes" me or the posts I make. I believe I had a 4 star rating with 6 rates. If that had been a 1 star rating with 20 rates, I could care less. I can't see anyone around here having so fragile an ego that a 1 star rating would break their confidence, destroy their self-worth, or make them insane. I know us trekkers are famous for not having lives, but COME ON...I say turn the stars back on, so people who don't like each other can use them in their flame wars and the rest of us can get a good laugh out of it. Either that or turn off post count, registration date, the whole kitchen sink, and leave just the user name. And if you find yourself fretting over your ranking on this board, in the words of William Shattner...........GET A LIFE!

Peace.

Cruis.In · « **Reply #25 on:** February 06, 2003, 08:33:27 pm »

Harold Nez, another newbie...apparantly you care enough to post that badly spelled rant.

how true is your truth?

dont steal my

peace.

Daew Anahos · « **Reply #28 on:** February 06, 2003, 09:41:10 pm »

SULU: Captain Kirk!

KIRK: What?

SULU: Sir, the STARS ARE GONE!

KIRK: Spock, confirm!

SPOCK: Confirmed Captain...I have also lost contact with the Shapely Center.

SCOTTY: It's because no one could find their manual, we've strayed into nospace...

KIRK: Captain's Log, Stardate Unknown. With the dissapearence of all the stars, the Enterprise crew is paralyzed,
unsure of what to do next...

MCCOY: Let's whine about the SFC3 patch again.

SPOCK: Whining is illogical.

MCXOY: Maybe so, but it makes me feel good.

Mazeppa · « **Reply #29 on:** February 07, 2003, 07:57:42 pm »

I also miss the ratings.

If they come back, I would like a feature added: The ability to change your mind about a person's rating.

Kieran Forester · « **Reply #32 on:** February 07, 2003, 10:56:56 pm »

Ya know, Cruis.In, for a 'veteran', you sure don't seem to be well informed...

And I find it rather interesting that you're calling Harry on his two minor spelling mistakes, when you don't seem to have discovered the wonder that is capitalization...

But, hey, what do I know. I'm disagreeing with you, a 'veteran', so I must be only another 'dumb newb.'

Major

to ya, bud..

LongTooth · « **Reply #34 on:** February 08, 2003, 01:29:48 pm »

So theres no chance of getting the stars put in ?
Some people must be real ego manics if they got taldren to pull this due to them not getting the rateing they wanted could be
why they got their rateing in the first place

3dot14 · « **Reply #37 on:** February 08, 2003, 02:19:25 pm »

ah com'n, KF, leave it.
"don't feed the troll".

p.s. isn't that armband commmodore? as opposed to the double lined commander?

Cruis.In · « **Reply #41 on:** February 08, 2003, 08:32:43 pm »

would you know my name...if I saw you in heaven. Would it be the same if I saw you in heaven?

Soreyes · « **Reply #42 on:** February 08, 2003, 10:42:22 pm »

Hmmmm this looks kind of fun........ (Sit back in my chair, Poor a three finger shot of JW Black.) Is this a closed or open flame war?

Scipio_66 · « **Reply #43 on:** February 08, 2003, 10:45:51 pm »

Hmmmm..... well, you know...

You could always go into your profile and change your "location" to however many stars you feel you deserve. Then your posts would all appear with the appropriate number of stars right under your name!

-S'Cipio the sardonic (who misses stars too)

Cleaven · « **Reply #44 on:** February 08, 2003, 11:20:55 pm »

Thread obviously needs a comment about people who's location is Texas (the state not the town).

Blitzkrieg · « **Reply #48 on:** February 09, 2003, 03:53:19 pm »

I guess they did have there uses, I voted one person 1 star and few others full stars when I saw somthing I liked of theres. It was if, not only could I say good post man but I could show my appreciation in another way. I personaly liked the idea, but will not cry over it going.

Also personaly I dont care a great deal over what is said or felt about me I wont cry. However its always nice to hear nice things!

There should be a poster appreciation thread for this purpose

Blitzkrieg · « **Reply #52 on:** February 09, 2003, 06:10:45 pm »

lol I was going to forget all about it but seems you bring it up ... I really want to explain but not only is it not important enough at this moment in time but, its late. When I get back from Uni tomorow, dont worry, I promise, ill pay you some attention cruis.in dont worry

I honestly have somthing to say aswell, bargain! When you get as drunk (old and stupid) as me, you will understand. Pick the bones out of that one.

Cruis.In · « **Reply #53 on:** February 10, 2003, 10:06:30 pm »

no picking of bones, you are my friend!

Teck · « **Reply #55 on:** February 11, 2003, 06:53:58 pm »

"---------------------------"

Could be the answer!

Vysander · « **Reply #59 on:** February 11, 2003, 10:46:52 pm »

user ratings of others does work, take a look at the slashdot forums. I for one happened to like it because if I were in a hurry I would skim through threads and catch the ones with big stars next to their names and trust their experiance over non/low starred people.

Any other way doesn't really work to 'rate' how useful a poster's information is, or how believable it is. Certainly not registration date as we can see from Cruis In, he sets a wonderful example of how to be ignorant and completely unhelpful to the community. Post count certainly doesn't work with 'pharming' or spamming of other threads possible.

It's not a security thing, not an ego thing, if I rated someone, it's because I found their information highly useful, or utterly incorrect. I'd rather have a way of ID'ing who is most likely correct or incorrect via simple star counts verses having to read my way through a confusing, wordy, flamy set of posts after that.

Recap: User ratings are far superior in determining validity of the poster than registration date or post count due to the latter two being able to be 'fixed'. (heck, I bought SFC 1 and 2 and had played them extensively but I didn't care to register onto these forums, if I own SFB the original black and white booklet (which I do, along with the utterly confusing expansions 1-3 and supplement A) does that make me better than you Cruis? According to your logic I am God compared to you in validity)

ChamadaIV · « **Reply #60 on:** February 12, 2003, 12:45:24 am »

<Rubs hands together in veritable glee> OOO, I smell a verbal grudge match here in the works.... Oh yeah....

This is a classic example of another "worthless" post, thus further corraborating Vysander's argument....

Now back to the show....

ChamadaIV · « **Reply #61 on:** February 12, 2003, 01:15:47 am »

Before I exit stage left, this whole thing still begs the question...

So Dave, if the user ratings get put down, why retain the rating for the threads themselves? Where's the logic in that? Why not axe all signs of ratings if they're so, and I quote, " silly and devisive,"? Hm?

And if I get banned over this stupid little inquiry, then we'll know just what kind of admin you really are Mr. Ferrell. I'm not trying to be belligerent or anything, just simply curious and somewhat alarmed at your more or less amoral response earlier in the thread...

KBF-Dogmatix · « **Reply #62 on:** February 12, 2003, 09:17:52 am »

Heh...I hear ya, Chris...

...I said the same thing Blade here on RW when we were playing on Triangle X and we talked about the user ratings. I thought it was interesting that this individual had been rated so many times and sat with one star. I found it heartening that his "truth" seemed to have so little support.

Whether it's true or not, I'm certainly more willing to buy this conspiracy theory over some fantasized "devicive and silly" nature. As I said before...it really doesn't matter too much. I agree with some that the user ratings do help positively mold people's behavior on a forum to a certain extent, but it's certainly not a perfect system.

GE-Raven · « **Reply #63 on:** February 12, 2003, 09:52:31 am »

Well here is my totally uninformed supposition. (Checks sign up date to make sure I am not a newbie)

I think the forums were brought "online" with all the bells and whistles. So there was no real "decision" to put stars in. They were default. Or maybe they weren't. I completely understand why they were removed. Their use was mostly punitive, from everything I had seen (and I posted an OT topic specifically to get as many rates as possible) they had mostly to do with whether or not you like what some one said. While this may be fine for some, I had hoped that they would be used to rate HOW people communicated in here. If someone constantly trolls give them a one. If someone always keeps their temper and argues their point (however wrong that point may be

!) well, give them a five.

Why leave the topic ratings. Well there is nothing "personal" about them. I use it to rate the usefulness or my opinion of general worth of a thread. If it is funny, or informative, raises a good question, give it a good rating. If it is "Bush is Hitler!!!" or "Nuke the Middle East!!!" well I think you know what I would rate it.

However when someone like Nanner receives a one star rating after 30 some rates (he at least deserves a 2

) it is obvious that someone is just out to punish him for his views. He conducts himself (again in my opinion) as well or better than most of this forum's denizens. Now keep in mind I think he is nuts in his rabid anti SFB rantings

and I personally blame him for me not getting GAW.

!!!

So like anything it was something to be tried out and we (as a collective) refused to use it as it was intended. So it has been removed. Oh well... I liked them but I totally understand why they were removed.

I also think their is nothing in Dave's tone to be offended by. Unless you are feeling that this is a direct jab at you. In which case you really need to work on your self-esteem.

If they were to be brought back (I know they aren't but hey...):

Let people change a rating.
Make people responsible for their rating (take away anonymity)
Require a "reason" in order to rate someone.

GE-Raven

Robb Stark · « **Reply #64 on:** February 12, 2003, 10:03:30 am »

Well, at the very least, they should probably remove the now pointless "Rating" column on the boards. It's just taking up space.

Cruis.In · « **Reply #65 on:** February 12, 2003, 10:04:23 pm »

Vysander, i am pleased my name is revered as a legend.

even if you are a newbie.

Cruis.In · « **Reply #68 on:** February 14, 2003, 01:29:34 am »

too bad extra in red shirts do not mean there quick and ultimate demise as per standard.

Blitzkrieg · « **Reply #69 on:** February 14, 2003, 04:14:11 am »

I'm surprised people got offended by this thread, Cruis.in and I were just sparing. Someone being offended at there status on here is pretty pitiable; I explained this in my brief analysis of Cruin.in's inadequacies.

I mean, no one even noticed I created a signature based around it

Harold Nez · « **Reply #70 on:** February 14, 2003, 05:50:18 am »

Agreed. That seems to be the point all along, from most users--many users of this UBB can handle and dish out flames/punishments/jokes/what-have-you. Of course, there are a few exceptions. Over the years, that has been the trend. But, then again, how would I know? I'm just a died-in-the-wool n00b......pfffffffffffffffffft. Stay cool.

Cruis.In · « **Reply #71 on:** February 14, 2003, 11:14:44 pm »

you see, i got them to admit that they are newbies. and therefore know not a great deal.

Aenigma · « **Reply #73 on:** February 05, 2003, 01:23:09 pm »

I noticed my nice stars disappeared. Three people rated me, and i got four stars..... Boohoo where are they? The night is so dark without these stars

Jackal99 · « **Reply #74 on:** February 05, 2003, 01:38:57 pm »

hmm... seems everyone has lost his rating

TalonClaw · « **Reply #76 on:** February 05, 2003, 01:45:49 pm »

Maybe it's turned off?

ChamadaIV · « **Reply #78 on:** February 05, 2003, 04:12:17 pm »

Swords and 5 * * * * *s for everyone, rejoice!!!

-the preceeding was inspired from the character Minsc in the PC game Baldur's Gate II...

now back to our regular programming already in progress...

MarianoDT · « **Reply #79 on:** February 05, 2003, 04:16:29 pm »

When i loose something, i always search in my pockets.

Cruis.In · « **Reply #80 on:** February 05, 2003, 05:12:26 pm »

well here is your answer.

as a veteran of these forums, ( note my reg date, almost 3 years ago) that date was around when we switched to these forums from the old message boards at interplay. those boards sucked, interms of finding a post a few days old.

anyway getting back, as a veteran i requested the rating system be removed, because people like blitzkrieg a member for one week were giving veterans like me one star because i had to tell him a stern from a bow.

which doesn't reflect my true value as the veteran I am.

taldren honoured my request in the standing of respecting a long time community member.

3dot14 · « **Reply #81 on:** February 05, 2003, 05:19:44 pm »

No offence to Cruis.In intended, I want to emphasize that Cruis.In's view does not necassarily reflect all veteran players. (I know a few players who do not hold this opinion.)
A new player has just as much right to critisize someone's claims as a veteran, after all we were all newbie once.

Not all of the veterans have this "we know better than you" attitude (Or NannerSlug will have a field day with his "elitism" stickers...)

But without having the stars doesn't bother me at all...

Jackal99 · « **Reply #82 on:** February 05, 2003, 06:18:48 pm »

Cruis.In, everybody should be proud about something he has done. but in real life, being a member of a forum for over 3 years is no real achievement, you won´t earn a single coin with that...
just think about it

Cruis.In · « **Reply #83 on:** February 05, 2003, 06:26:55 pm »

i have many achievements. and I am not so insecure that I have to list them for you.

my post reeked of sarcasm, go read it again. if you thought it was serious, then well.....i really have no advice I could give you on how to lighten up.

not surprising that someone who came here two weeks ago would tell me that I can't earn a single coin with my achievement of being here three years.

I've earned more than a single coin my boy...i got a starship.

Jackal99 · « **Reply #84 on:** February 05, 2003, 06:37:54 pm »

well, a starship is nice.... but i hope it is at least a heavy cruiser ... i won´t accept anything else as an achievement

Blitzkrieg · « **Reply #85 on:** February 05, 2003, 06:48:16 pm »

Wow my name was mentioned, yes someone gave me a few starts then someone voted me down, big deal. Someone got a bee in there bonet eh? I may be new to these boards but Im more of an all around "veteran" when it comes to play computer games.

Its like CGA, computer games anonymouse, i have a problem...

you

only joking dont take it so seriously

...too many spelling mistakes to correct captain

Aves · « **Reply #86 on:** February 05, 2003, 07:21:09 pm »

I never had any stars, really don't care if they're gone, couldn't care less if they come back... but I can understand that people who "earned" their way up to a solid 4-5 star rating would be upset when they're no longer there. But if we're getting rid of stars, shouldn't we get rid of post numbers and ranks too (just play'n devil's advocate)?

Cruis.In · « **Reply #87 on:** February 05, 2003, 08:18:01 pm »

heh, blitzkrieg i seen you on some server which was it.

i played triangle, activision B, and am on sfc3.net now.

btw, i suck, because look i have been here 3 years but have posted less than 270 times. hahaahaha

i am only around when i am on vacation or sick. now im sick. also i mainly drift in and out as the different sfc fade, sfc2 held nothing for me after the triangle 2.0 server was taken down due to frustration with rule breakers, the campaign was so good.

back now for sfc3, gone when bored...only to pay visits instead of posting.

so infact someone with 6 months here could be more valued because they may be a modeller, and contribute something tangible. i contribute nothing but discussion on the game.

which reminds me, go to d3 experiences, im posting a new thread. about big ships.

what was the point to my post?

begin federation encryption methods.

ihts ospt si eutr nda cortcre.

end decryption ;P

ZTempest · « **Reply #88 on:** February 06, 2003, 07:12:04 am »

Test...to see if any stars come up next to my name. I sort of doubt it

Blitzkrieg · « **Reply #90 on:** February 06, 2003, 07:36:11 am »

Yeah I quite liked it, its like kudos from your piers

KRolling · « **Reply #91 on:** February 06, 2003, 07:40:18 am »

<Rolling pulls out guitar and starts singing>

Where have all the stars gone?
Long time passing
Where have all the stars go-o-one?
Long time agoooo....

Cruis.In · « **Reply #95 on:** February 06, 2003, 02:53:51 pm »

likkerpig was always a cool fella, too bad he was banned. someone must have been real mad at him.

Harold Nez · « **Reply #96 on:** February 06, 2003, 03:24:08 pm »

This may sound harsh, but I simply can't invision ever caring about how a person on UBB board "likes" or "dislikes" me or the posts I make. I believe I had a 4 star rating with 6 rates. If that had been a 1 star rating with 20 rates, I could care less. I can't see anyone around here having so fragile an ego that a 1 star rating would break their confidence, destroy their self-worth, or make them insane. I know us trekkers are famous for not having lives, but COME ON...I say turn the stars back on, so people who don't like each other can use them in their flame wars and the rest of us can get a good laugh out of it. Either that or turn off post count, registration date, the whole kitchen sink, and leave just the user name. And if you find yourself fretting over your ranking on this board, in the words of William Shattner...........GET A LIFE!

Peace.

Cruis.In · « **Reply #98 on:** February 06, 2003, 08:33:27 pm »

Harold Nez, another newbie...apparantly you care enough to post that badly spelled rant.

how true is your truth?

dont steal my

peace.

Daew Anahos · « **Reply #101 on:** February 06, 2003, 09:41:10 pm »

SULU: Captain Kirk!

KIRK: What?

SULU: Sir, the STARS ARE GONE!

KIRK: Spock, confirm!

SPOCK: Confirmed Captain...I have also lost contact with the Shapely Center.

SCOTTY: It's because no one could find their manual, we've strayed into nospace...

KIRK: Captain's Log, Stardate Unknown. With the dissapearence of all the stars, the Enterprise crew is paralyzed,
unsure of what to do next...

MCCOY: Let's whine about the SFC3 patch again.

SPOCK: Whining is illogical.

MCXOY: Maybe so, but it makes me feel good.

Mazeppa · « **Reply #102 on:** February 07, 2003, 07:57:42 pm »

I also miss the ratings.

If they come back, I would like a feature added: The ability to change your mind about a person's rating.

Kieran Forester · « **Reply #105 on:** February 07, 2003, 10:56:56 pm »

Ya know, Cruis.In, for a 'veteran', you sure don't seem to be well informed...

And I find it rather interesting that you're calling Harry on his two minor spelling mistakes, when you don't seem to have discovered the wonder that is capitalization...

But, hey, what do I know. I'm disagreeing with you, a 'veteran', so I must be only another 'dumb newb.'

Major

to ya, bud..

LongTooth · « **Reply #107 on:** February 08, 2003, 01:29:48 pm »

So theres no chance of getting the stars put in ?
Some people must be real ego manics if they got taldren to pull this due to them not getting the rateing they wanted could be
why they got their rateing in the first place

3dot14 · « **Reply #110 on:** February 08, 2003, 02:19:25 pm »

ah com'n, KF, leave it.
"don't feed the troll".

p.s. isn't that armband commmodore? as opposed to the double lined commander?

Cruis.In · « **Reply #114 on:** February 08, 2003, 08:32:43 pm »

would you know my name...if I saw you in heaven. Would it be the same if I saw you in heaven?

Soreyes · « **Reply #115 on:** February 08, 2003, 10:42:22 pm »

Hmmmm this looks kind of fun........ (Sit back in my chair, Poor a three finger shot of JW Black.) Is this a closed or open flame war?

Scipio_66 · « **Reply #116 on:** February 08, 2003, 10:45:51 pm »

Hmmmm..... well, you know...

You could always go into your profile and change your "location" to however many stars you feel you deserve. Then your posts would all appear with the appropriate number of stars right under your name!

-S'Cipio the sardonic (who misses stars too)

Cleaven · « **Reply #117 on:** February 08, 2003, 11:20:55 pm »

Thread obviously needs a comment about people who's location is Texas (the state not the town).

Blitzkrieg · « **Reply #121 on:** February 09, 2003, 03:53:19 pm »

I guess they did have there uses, I voted one person 1 star and few others full stars when I saw somthing I liked of theres. It was if, not only could I say good post man but I could show my appreciation in another way. I personaly liked the idea, but will not cry over it going.

Also personaly I dont care a great deal over what is said or felt about me I wont cry. However its always nice to hear nice things!

There should be a poster appreciation thread for this purpose

Blitzkrieg · « **Reply #125 on:** February 09, 2003, 06:10:45 pm »

lol I was going to forget all about it but seems you bring it up ... I really want to explain but not only is it not important enough at this moment in time but, its late. When I get back from Uni tomorow, dont worry, I promise, ill pay you some attention cruis.in dont worry

I honestly have somthing to say aswell, bargain! When you get as drunk (old and stupid) as me, you will understand. Pick the bones out of that one.

Cruis.In · « **Reply #126 on:** February 10, 2003, 10:06:30 pm »

no picking of bones, you are my friend!

Teck · « **Reply #128 on:** February 11, 2003, 06:53:58 pm »

"---------------------------"

Could be the answer!

Vysander · « **Reply #132 on:** February 11, 2003, 10:46:52 pm »

user ratings of others does work, take a look at the slashdot forums. I for one happened to like it because if I were in a hurry I would skim through threads and catch the ones with big stars next to their names and trust their experiance over non/low starred people.

Any other way doesn't really work to 'rate' how useful a poster's information is, or how believable it is. Certainly not registration date as we can see from Cruis In, he sets a wonderful example of how to be ignorant and completely unhelpful to the community. Post count certainly doesn't work with 'pharming' or spamming of other threads possible.

It's not a security thing, not an ego thing, if I rated someone, it's because I found their information highly useful, or utterly incorrect. I'd rather have a way of ID'ing who is most likely correct or incorrect via simple star counts verses having to read my way through a confusing, wordy, flamy set of posts after that.

Recap: User ratings are far superior in determining validity of the poster than registration date or post count due to the latter two being able to be 'fixed'. (heck, I bought SFC 1 and 2 and had played them extensively but I didn't care to register onto these forums, if I own SFB the original black and white booklet (which I do, along with the utterly confusing expansions 1-3 and supplement A) does that make me better than you Cruis? According to your logic I am God compared to you in validity)

ChamadaIV · « **Reply #133 on:** February 12, 2003, 12:45:24 am »

<Rubs hands together in veritable glee> OOO, I smell a verbal grudge match here in the works.... Oh yeah....

This is a classic example of another "worthless" post, thus further corraborating Vysander's argument....

Now back to the show....

ChamadaIV · « **Reply #134 on:** February 12, 2003, 01:15:47 am »

Before I exit stage left, this whole thing still begs the question...

So Dave, if the user ratings get put down, why retain the rating for the threads themselves? Where's the logic in that? Why not axe all signs of ratings if they're so, and I quote, " silly and devisive,"? Hm?

And if I get banned over this stupid little inquiry, then we'll know just what kind of admin you really are Mr. Ferrell. I'm not trying to be belligerent or anything, just simply curious and somewhat alarmed at your more or less amoral response earlier in the thread...

KBF-Dogmatix · « **Reply #135 on:** February 12, 2003, 09:17:52 am »

Heh...I hear ya, Chris...

...I said the same thing Blade here on RW when we were playing on Triangle X and we talked about the user ratings. I thought it was interesting that this individual had been rated so many times and sat with one star. I found it heartening that his "truth" seemed to have so little support.

Whether it's true or not, I'm certainly more willing to buy this conspiracy theory over some fantasized "devicive and silly" nature. As I said before...it really doesn't matter too much. I agree with some that the user ratings do help positively mold people's behavior on a forum to a certain extent, but it's certainly not a perfect system.

GE-Raven · « **Reply #136 on:** February 12, 2003, 09:52:31 am »

Well here is my totally uninformed supposition. (Checks sign up date to make sure I am not a newbie)

I think the forums were brought "online" with all the bells and whistles. So there was no real "decision" to put stars in. They were default. Or maybe they weren't. I completely understand why they were removed. Their use was mostly punitive, from everything I had seen (and I posted an OT topic specifically to get as many rates as possible) they had mostly to do with whether or not you like what some one said. While this may be fine for some, I had hoped that they would be used to rate HOW people communicated in here. If someone constantly trolls give them a one. If someone always keeps their temper and argues their point (however wrong that point may be

!) well, give them a five.

Why leave the topic ratings. Well there is nothing "personal" about them. I use it to rate the usefulness or my opinion of general worth of a thread. If it is funny, or informative, raises a good question, give it a good rating. If it is "Bush is Hitler!!!" or "Nuke the Middle East!!!" well I think you know what I would rate it.

However when someone like Nanner receives a one star rating after 30 some rates (he at least deserves a 2

) it is obvious that someone is just out to punish him for his views. He conducts himself (again in my opinion) as well or better than most of this forum's denizens. Now keep in mind I think he is nuts in his rabid anti SFB rantings

and I personally blame him for me not getting GAW.

!!!

So like anything it was something to be tried out and we (as a collective) refused to use it as it was intended. So it has been removed. Oh well... I liked them but I totally understand why they were removed.

I also think their is nothing in Dave's tone to be offended by. Unless you are feeling that this is a direct jab at you. In which case you really need to work on your self-esteem.

If they were to be brought back (I know they aren't but hey...):

Let people change a rating.
Make people responsible for their rating (take away anonymity)
Require a "reason" in order to rate someone.

GE-Raven

Robb Stark · « **Reply #137 on:** February 12, 2003, 10:03:30 am »

Well, at the very least, they should probably remove the now pointless "Rating" column on the boards. It's just taking up space.

Cruis.In · « **Reply #138 on:** February 12, 2003, 10:04:23 pm »

Vysander, i am pleased my name is revered as a legend.

even if you are a newbie.

Cruis.In · « **Reply #141 on:** February 14, 2003, 01:29:34 am »

too bad extra in red shirts do not mean there quick and ultimate demise as per standard.

Blitzkrieg · « **Reply #142 on:** February 14, 2003, 04:14:11 am »

I'm surprised people got offended by this thread, Cruis.in and I were just sparing. Someone being offended at there status on here is pretty pitiable; I explained this in my brief analysis of Cruin.in's inadequacies.

I mean, no one even noticed I created a signature based around it

Harold Nez · « **Reply #143 on:** February 14, 2003, 05:50:18 am »

Agreed. That seems to be the point all along, from most users--many users of this UBB can handle and dish out flames/punishments/jokes/what-have-you. Of course, there are a few exceptions. Over the years, that has been the trend. But, then again, how would I know? I'm just a died-in-the-wool n00b......pfffffffffffffffffft. Stay cool.

Cruis.In · « **Reply #144 on:** February 14, 2003, 11:14:44 pm »

you see, i got them to admit that they are newbies. and therefore know not a great deal.

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