Topic: Where's my rating?  (Read 20065 times)

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ChamadaIV

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Re: Where's my rating?
« Reply #60 on: February 12, 2003, 12:45:24 am »
<Rubs hands together in veritable glee> OOO, I smell a verbal grudge match here in the works.... Oh yeah....

This is a classic example of another "worthless" post, thus further corraborating Vysander's argument....

Now back to the show....    

ChamadaIV

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Re: Where's my rating?
« Reply #61 on: February 12, 2003, 01:15:47 am »
Before I exit stage left, this whole thing still begs the question...

So Dave, if the user ratings get put down, why retain the rating for the threads themselves? Where's the logic in that? Why not axe all signs of ratings if they're so, and I quote, " silly and devisive,"? Hm?

And if I get banned over this stupid little inquiry, then we'll know just what kind of admin you really are Mr. Ferrell. I'm not trying to be belligerent or anything, just simply curious and  somewhat alarmed at your more or less amoral response earlier in the thread...  

KBF-Dogmatix

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Re: Where's my rating?
« Reply #62 on: February 12, 2003, 09:17:52 am »
Heh...I hear ya, Chris...


...I said the same thing Blade here on RW when we were playing on Triangle X and we talked about the user ratings.  I thought it was interesting that this individual had been rated so many times and sat with one star.  I found it heartening that his "truth" seemed to have so little support.


Whether it's true or not, I'm certainly more willing to buy this conspiracy theory over some fantasized "devicive and silly" nature.  As I said before...it really doesn't matter too much.  I agree with some that the user ratings do help positively mold people's behavior on a forum to a certain extent, but it's certainly not a perfect system.


 
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GE-Raven

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Re: Where's my rating?
« Reply #63 on: February 12, 2003, 09:52:31 am »
Well here is my totally uninformed supposition.  (Checks sign up date to make sure I am not a newbie)

I think the forums were brought "online" with all the bells and whistles.  So there was no real "decision" to put stars in.  They were default.  Or maybe they weren't.  I completely understand why they were removed.  Their use was mostly punitive, from everything I had seen (and I posted an OT topic specifically to get as many rates as possible) they had mostly to do with whether or not you like what some one said.  While this may be fine for some, I had hoped that they would be used to rate HOW people communicated in here.  If someone constantly trolls give them a one.  If someone always keeps their temper and argues their point (however wrong that point may be !) well, give them a five.  

Why leave the topic ratings.  Well there is nothing "personal" about them.  I use it to rate the usefulness or my opinion of general worth of a thread.  If it is funny, or informative, raises a good question, give it a good rating.  If it is "Bush is Hitler!!!" or "Nuke the Middle East!!!"  well I think you know what I would rate it.  

However when someone like Nanner receives a one star rating after 30 some rates (he at least deserves a 2 ) it is obvious that someone is just out to punish him for his views.  He conducts himself (again in my opinion) as well or better than most of this forum's denizens.  Now keep in mind I think he is nuts in his rabid anti SFB rantings and I personally blame him for me not getting GAW. !!!

So like anything it was something to be tried out and we (as a collective) refused to use it as it was intended.  So it has been removed.  Oh well... I liked them but I totally understand why they were removed.  

I also think their is nothing in Dave's tone to be offended by.  Unless you are feeling that this is a direct jab at you.  In which case you really need to work on your self-esteem.

If they were to be brought back (I know they aren't but hey...):

Let people change a rating.
Make people responsible for their rating (take away anonymity)
Require a "reason" in order to rate someone.

GE-Raven
 

Robb Stark

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Re: Where's my rating?
« Reply #64 on: February 12, 2003, 10:03:30 am »
Well, at the very least, they should probably remove the now pointless "Rating" column on the boards.  It's just taking up space.  

Cruis.In

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Re: Where's my rating?
« Reply #65 on: February 12, 2003, 10:04:23 pm »
Vysander, i am pleased my name is revered as a legend.

even if you are a newbie.

Vysander

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Re: Where's my rating?
« Reply #66 on: February 12, 2003, 10:08:40 pm »
Quote:

Vysander, i am pleased my name is revered as a legend.

even if you are a newbie.  




*cough* did that make any sense to anyone?

Well anyways i'm now glad to know that your 300 odd posts are self indulging rants  I rate you 1 star.  Conversation over, you may continue your rants as you wish.  

KBF-Dogmatix

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Re: Where's my rating?
« Reply #67 on: February 13, 2003, 04:40:43 pm »
Quote:

Well here is my totally uninformed supposition.  (Checks sign up date to make sure I am not a newbie)

I think the forums were brought "online" with all the bells and whistles.  So there was no real "decision" to put stars in.  They were default.  Or maybe they weren't.  I completely understand why they were removed.  Their use was mostly punitive, from everything I had seen (and I posted an OT topic specifically to get as many rates as possible) they had mostly to do with whether or not you like what some one said.  While this may be fine for some, I had hoped that they would be used to rate HOW people communicated in here.  If someone constantly trolls give them a one.  If someone always keeps their temper and argues their point (however wrong that point may be !) well, give them a five.  

Why leave the topic ratings.  Well there is nothing "personal" about them.  I use it to rate the usefulness or my opinion of general worth of a thread.  If it is funny, or informative, raises a good question, give it a good rating.  If it is "Bush is Hitler!!!" or "Nuke the Middle East!!!"  well I think you know what I would rate it.  

However when someone like Nanner receives a one star rating after 30 some rates (he at least deserves a 2 ) it is obvious that someone is just out to punish him for his views.  He conducts himself (again in my opinion) as well or better than most of this forum's denizens.  Now keep in mind I think he is nuts in his rabid anti SFB rantings and I personally blame him for me not getting GAW. !!!

So like anything it was something to be tried out and we (as a collective) refused to use it as it was intended.  So it has been removed.  Oh well... I liked them but I totally understand why they were removed.  

I also think their is nothing in Dave's tone to be offended by.  Unless you are feeling that this is a direct jab at you.  In which case you really need to work on your self-esteem.

If they were to be brought back (I know they aren't but hey...):

Let people change a rating.
Make people responsible for their rating (take away anonymity)
Require a "reason" in order to rate someone.

GE-Raven
   





Fair enough Raven.  Basically, your opinions on this issue are as much conjecture as any other opinion stated here.  I do buy that perhaps the forums were brought up with everything "turned on" without much thought as to whether they should have been turned on or not.

I'm not sure how you can be certain that a given individual's rating was somehow "punitive" in nature and, as such, was wrong or innacurate.  It sounds like you make the assumption that people made ratings based upon the name of a poster, not the content of their message.  Perhaps in some cases that is true, but I trust most people to make honest assessments on a case-by-case basis.  At any rate, I certainly do.  If I go to the trouble to rate someone, I take into account their behavior and contributions as a whole.   It could very well be that the individual's views are truly frowned upon by the people who rated him or her.  In such a case, what is wrong with being punitive?  If a low rating maybe gives a person pause as to their behavior and views, I'd say there's some progress possibly being made.


BTW...people don't have to take DIRECT jabs at me to offend me.  While I'm slow to be offended, I can find offense in "jabs" directed at others.  Zero self-esteem problems here.  


I would agree that reasons for ratings and taking away anonimity would be great.  The old StarFleetComms fora had "postive," negative" and "neutral" ratings and allowed you to enter a few lines for your reasoning.  Persons then accumulated "stars" based upon the number of positive ratings (with comments).  Ratings without comment counted for less.  It was a great system, I felt.



 
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Cruis.In

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Re: Where's my rating?
« Reply #68 on: February 14, 2003, 01:29:34 am »
too bad extra in red shirts do not mean there quick and ultimate demise as per standard.

Blitzkrieg

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Re: Where's my rating?
« Reply #69 on: February 14, 2003, 04:14:11 am »
I'm surprised people got offended by this thread, Cruis.in and I were just sparing. Someone being offended at there status on here is pretty pitiable; I explained this in my brief analysis of Cruin.in's inadequacies.

I mean, no one even noticed I created a signature based around it

Harold Nez

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Re: Where's my rating?
« Reply #70 on: February 14, 2003, 05:50:18 am »
Agreed.  That seems to be the point all along, from most users--many users of this UBB can handle and dish out flames/punishments/jokes/what-have-you.  Of course, there are a few exceptions.  Over the years, that has been the trend.  But, then again, how would I know?  I'm just a died-in-the-wool n00b......pfffffffffffffffffft.  Stay cool.  

Cruis.In

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Re: Where's my rating?
« Reply #71 on: February 14, 2003, 11:14:44 pm »
you see, i got them to admit that they are newbies. and therefore know not a great deal.


LongTooth

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Re: Where's my rating?
« Reply #72 on: February 15, 2003, 08:16:24 am »
Quote:

you see, i got them to admit that they are newbies. and therefore know not a great deal.

 



Some people are not new but do have a new acount
I myself have had 3 acounts since 2000 and no I have never been banned a lot of people when they first sign up to the fourms use a fleet name or later on join a fleet (as in my case) then join another fleet and thus once again a new acount
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Aenigma

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Where's my rating?
« Reply #73 on: February 05, 2003, 01:23:09 pm »
I noticed my nice stars disappeared. Three people rated me, and i got four stars..... Boohoo where are they? The night is so dark without these stars  

Jackal99

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Re: Where's my rating?
« Reply #74 on: February 05, 2003, 01:38:57 pm »
hmm... seems everyone has lost his rating  

**DONOTDELETE**

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Re: Where's my rating?
« Reply #75 on: February 05, 2003, 01:43:57 pm »
Quote:

I noticed my nice stars disappeared. Three people rated me, and i got four stars..... Boohoo where are they? The night is so dark without these stars  



Here you go. Have 5  

*****  

Enjoy          

TalonClaw

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Re: Where's my rating?
« Reply #76 on: February 05, 2003, 01:45:49 pm »
Maybe it's turned off?

Alidar Jarok

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Re: Where's my rating?
« Reply #77 on: February 05, 2003, 03:27:09 pm »
Quote:

Quote:

I noticed my nice stars disappeared. Three people rated me, and i got four stars..... Boohoo where are they? The night is so dark without these stars  



Here you go. Have 5  

*****  

Enjoy          




I can do better than that

5 stars for everyone



     

ChamadaIV

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Re: Where's my rating?
« Reply #78 on: February 05, 2003, 04:12:17 pm »
Swords and 5 * * * * *s for everyone, rejoice!!!

-the preceeding was inspired from the character Minsc in the PC game Baldur's Gate II...

now back to our regular programming already in progress...  

MarianoDT

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Re: Where's my rating?
« Reply #79 on: February 05, 2003, 04:16:29 pm »
When i loose something, i always search in my pockets.