Topic: Where's my rating?  (Read 20070 times)

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KBF-JD

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Re: Where's my rating?
« Reply #120 on: February 09, 2003, 12:46:53 pm »
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So theres no chance of getting the stars put in ?
Some people must be real ego manics if they got taldren to pull this due to them not getting the rateing they wanted could be
why they got their rateing in the first place
 




Some people must be really insecure to need to have little stars telling them their worth in society.

Thier silly, devisive and their not coming back.

Thanks,

Dave  




Wow, not bashing here, but do you pratice that posting style?

Dave, there is a simple way to avoid some of this.  If you or someone would have posted in the announcements thread that,

"After an experiment with poster rating, we have determined that the system is devicive and we have removed the feature from these forua.  Thank you for your understanding."

Most of the griping would have gone away.  It really is a non issue.

But when you make changes, ignore the feedback, then come down with an IRON Fist buried an a single thread, it really brings the companies customer relations into question.  I mean, some people in this thread liked the feedback feature and you have just questioned their character?  Is that what you were trying to do?

Taldren, as a company used to be very customer responsive.  I know you guys have gotten somewhat burned about in the past, but maybe you have gone a little too far in the other direction?

There are other threads that deserve a responce, the "unban" thread comes to mind.  But if you do respond to it, please be careful how you do it.

Often, how you say something is as important as what you say....

Thanks,

jd  

Blitzkrieg

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Re: Where's my rating?
« Reply #121 on: February 09, 2003, 03:53:19 pm »
I guess they did have there uses, I voted one person 1 star and few others full stars when I saw somthing I liked of theres. It was if, not only could I say good post man but I could show my appreciation in another way. I personaly liked the idea, but will not cry over it going.

Also personaly I dont care a great deal over what is said or felt about me I wont cry. However its always nice to hear nice things!

There should be a poster appreciation thread for this purpose  
« Last Edit: February 09, 2003, 03:54:20 pm by Blitzkrieg »

LongTooth

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Re: Where's my rating?
« Reply #122 on: February 09, 2003, 05:02:28 pm »
Quote:

Quote:

So theres no chance of getting the stars put in ?
Some people must be real ego manics if they got taldren to pull this due to them not getting the rateing they wanted could be
why they got their rateing in the first place
 




Some people must be really insecure to need to have little stars telling them their worth in society.

Thier silly, devisive and their not coming back.

Thanks,

Dave  



Maybe so but  thats not why they went away
Beggers the question why put them in the first place

Cruis.In

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Re: Where's my rating?
« Reply #123 on: February 09, 2003, 05:29:57 pm »
remember I said they went away because I told taldren to take them away. you can ask taldren.
isnt that right David that you honoured my request..

oh Blitz

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I guess they did have there uses, I voted one person 1 star and few others full stars when I saw somthing I liked of theres.




after all the indulgence into my frame of mind i cant believe you would admit that.
that you actually stopped and voted for them....it might show how much you read into everything you are seeing.
here have an ice cream!


 

KATChuutRitt

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Re: Where's my rating?
« Reply #124 on: February 09, 2003, 05:30:26 pm »
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Quote:

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So theres no chance of getting the stars put in ?
Some people must be real ego manics if they got taldren to pull this due to them not getting the rateing they wanted could be
why they got their rateing in the first place
 




Some people must be really insecure to need to have little stars telling them their worth in society.

Thier silly, devisive and their not coming back.

Thanks,

Dave  



Maybe so but  thats not why they went away
Beggers the question why put them in the first place  




Agreed Longtooth

Nice Try Dave care to try again?

Blitzkrieg

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Re: Where's my rating?
« Reply #125 on: February 09, 2003, 06:10:45 pm »
lol I was going to forget all about it but seems you bring it up ... I really want to explain but not only is it not important enough at this moment in time but, its late. When I get back from Uni tomorow, dont worry, I promise, ill pay you some attention cruis.in dont worry  

I honestly have somthing to say aswell, bargain! When you get as drunk (old and stupid) as me, you will understand. Pick the bones out of that one.

Cruis.In

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Re: Where's my rating?
« Reply #126 on: February 10, 2003, 10:06:30 pm »
no picking of bones, you are my friend!

KBF-Dogmatix

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Re: Where's my rating?
« Reply #127 on: February 11, 2003, 06:43:08 pm »
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So theres no chance of getting the stars put in ?
Some people must be real ego manics if they got taldren to pull this due to them not getting the rateing they wanted could be
why they got their rateing in the first place
 




Some people must be really insecure to need to have little stars telling them their worth in society.

Thier silly, devisive and their not coming back.

Thanks,

Dave  





Wow, Dave...friendly attitude ya have there.

Where was the hue and cry regarding their devisive and silly nature?  I saw no evidence of this.  The first discussion I noted regarding the stars was in this thread after they were axed.


In the grand scheme of things, it doesn't matter, of course.  I really don't buy your explanation, though.
 
« Last Edit: December 31, 1969, 06:00:00 pm by KBF-Dogmatix »

Teck

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Re: Where's my rating?
« Reply #128 on: February 11, 2003, 06:53:58 pm »

"---------------------------"

Could be the answer!

ChrsLWlstr

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Re: Where's my rating?
« Reply #129 on: February 11, 2003, 07:46:36 pm »
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"---------------------------"

Could be the answer!  





Hmm... My idea didn't fit...

Rob Cole

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Re: Where's my rating?
« Reply #130 on: February 11, 2003, 09:22:08 pm »
Quote:

Quote:

So theres no chance of getting the stars put in ?
Some people must be real ego manics if they got taldren to pull this due to them not getting the rateing they wanted could be
why they got their rateing in the first place
 




Some people must be really insecure to need to have little stars telling them their worth in society.

Thier silly, devisive and their not coming back.

Thanks,

Dave  




It Could not be that He who shall not be named,Got rated over 30 times but had only 1 star??????? Naw that can't be it.
<snickers>

ChrsLWlstr

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Re: Where's my rating?
« Reply #131 on: February 11, 2003, 09:51:31 pm »
Quote:

Quote:

Quote:

So theres no chance of getting the stars put in ?
Some people must be real ego manics if they got taldren to pull this due to them not getting the rateing they wanted could be
why they got their rateing in the first place
 




Some people must be really insecure to need to have little stars telling them their worth in society.

Thier silly, devisive and their not coming back.

Thanks,

Dave  




It Could not be that He who shall not be named,Got rated over 30 times but had only 1 star??????? Naw that can't be it.
<snickers>  





I was going to say that, however, I didn't want to take the risk of being banned for such an insignificant little
post.  

Anyway...  
« Last Edit: December 31, 1969, 06:00:00 pm by ChrsLWlstr »

Vysander

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Re: Where's my rating?
« Reply #132 on: February 11, 2003, 10:46:52 pm »
user ratings of others does work, take a look at the slashdot forums.  I for one happened to like it because if I were in a hurry I would skim through threads and catch the ones with big stars next to their names and trust their experiance over non/low starred people.

Any other way doesn't really work to 'rate' how useful a poster's information is, or how believable it is.  Certainly not registration date as we can see from Cruis In, he sets a wonderful example of how to be ignorant and completely unhelpful to the community.  Post count certainly doesn't work with 'pharming' or spamming of other threads possible.

It's not a security thing, not an ego thing, if I rated someone, it's because I found their information highly useful, or utterly incorrect.  I'd rather have a way of ID'ing who is most likely correct or incorrect via simple star counts verses having to read my way through a confusing, wordy, flamy set of posts after that.

Recap:  User ratings are far superior in determining validity of the poster than registration date or post count due to the latter two being able to be 'fixed'.  (heck, I bought SFC 1 and 2 and had played them extensively but I didn't care to register onto these forums, if I own SFB the original black and white booklet (which I do, along with the utterly confusing expansions 1-3 and supplement A) does that make me better than you Cruis?  According to your logic I am God compared to you in validity)

ChamadaIV

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Re: Where's my rating?
« Reply #133 on: February 12, 2003, 12:45:24 am »
<Rubs hands together in veritable glee> OOO, I smell a verbal grudge match here in the works.... Oh yeah....

This is a classic example of another "worthless" post, thus further corraborating Vysander's argument....

Now back to the show....    

ChamadaIV

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Re: Where's my rating?
« Reply #134 on: February 12, 2003, 01:15:47 am »
Before I exit stage left, this whole thing still begs the question...

So Dave, if the user ratings get put down, why retain the rating for the threads themselves? Where's the logic in that? Why not axe all signs of ratings if they're so, and I quote, " silly and devisive,"? Hm?

And if I get banned over this stupid little inquiry, then we'll know just what kind of admin you really are Mr. Ferrell. I'm not trying to be belligerent or anything, just simply curious and  somewhat alarmed at your more or less amoral response earlier in the thread...  

KBF-Dogmatix

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Re: Where's my rating?
« Reply #135 on: February 12, 2003, 09:17:52 am »
Heh...I hear ya, Chris...


...I said the same thing Blade here on RW when we were playing on Triangle X and we talked about the user ratings.  I thought it was interesting that this individual had been rated so many times and sat with one star.  I found it heartening that his "truth" seemed to have so little support.


Whether it's true or not, I'm certainly more willing to buy this conspiracy theory over some fantasized "devicive and silly" nature.  As I said before...it really doesn't matter too much.  I agree with some that the user ratings do help positively mold people's behavior on a forum to a certain extent, but it's certainly not a perfect system.


 
« Last Edit: December 31, 1969, 06:00:00 pm by KBF-Dogmatix »

GE-Raven

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Re: Where's my rating?
« Reply #136 on: February 12, 2003, 09:52:31 am »
Well here is my totally uninformed supposition.  (Checks sign up date to make sure I am not a newbie)

I think the forums were brought "online" with all the bells and whistles.  So there was no real "decision" to put stars in.  They were default.  Or maybe they weren't.  I completely understand why they were removed.  Their use was mostly punitive, from everything I had seen (and I posted an OT topic specifically to get as many rates as possible) they had mostly to do with whether or not you like what some one said.  While this may be fine for some, I had hoped that they would be used to rate HOW people communicated in here.  If someone constantly trolls give them a one.  If someone always keeps their temper and argues their point (however wrong that point may be !) well, give them a five.  

Why leave the topic ratings.  Well there is nothing "personal" about them.  I use it to rate the usefulness or my opinion of general worth of a thread.  If it is funny, or informative, raises a good question, give it a good rating.  If it is "Bush is Hitler!!!" or "Nuke the Middle East!!!"  well I think you know what I would rate it.  

However when someone like Nanner receives a one star rating after 30 some rates (he at least deserves a 2 ) it is obvious that someone is just out to punish him for his views.  He conducts himself (again in my opinion) as well or better than most of this forum's denizens.  Now keep in mind I think he is nuts in his rabid anti SFB rantings and I personally blame him for me not getting GAW. !!!

So like anything it was something to be tried out and we (as a collective) refused to use it as it was intended.  So it has been removed.  Oh well... I liked them but I totally understand why they were removed.  

I also think their is nothing in Dave's tone to be offended by.  Unless you are feeling that this is a direct jab at you.  In which case you really need to work on your self-esteem.

If they were to be brought back (I know they aren't but hey...):

Let people change a rating.
Make people responsible for their rating (take away anonymity)
Require a "reason" in order to rate someone.

GE-Raven
 

Robb Stark

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Re: Where's my rating?
« Reply #137 on: February 12, 2003, 10:03:30 am »
Well, at the very least, they should probably remove the now pointless "Rating" column on the boards.  It's just taking up space.  

Cruis.In

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Re: Where's my rating?
« Reply #138 on: February 12, 2003, 10:04:23 pm »
Vysander, i am pleased my name is revered as a legend.

even if you are a newbie.

Vysander

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Re: Where's my rating?
« Reply #139 on: February 12, 2003, 10:08:40 pm »
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Vysander, i am pleased my name is revered as a legend.

even if you are a newbie.  




*cough* did that make any sense to anyone?

Well anyways i'm now glad to know that your 300 odd posts are self indulging rants  I rate you 1 star.  Conversation over, you may continue your rants as you wish.