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I hate compuiters!!!
« on: May 09, 2005, 10:26:30 am »
I am really beginning to hate this thing.  Really.  Now, my Norton has been stripped off, my windows installer won't work, and the stupid computer tells me that I don't have authority to download files to fix things.  So, how is your day going?  I've about decided that I am not getting another system until Fisher-Price makes one.


NPR is a lot like NASCAR.  Two hundred miles an hour in a circle, and you end up right back where you started with nothing but lost time for the effort.


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Re: I hate compuiters!!!
« Reply #1 on: May 09, 2005, 10:46:46 am »
I'm going to write my congressman and try to get a law passed that hackers have their gentiailia removed and served to them on a stinking bun!  With no mustard, either!  Gah it annoys me that we have people with such low standards and morals in the world, who think it funny to harm others. 
   I'd love to meet one one time!  I'd simply enjoy the priveledge of beating him senseless.


NPR is a lot like NASCAR.  Two hundred miles an hour in a circle, and you end up right back where you started with nothing but lost time for the effort.


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Re: I hate compuiters!!!
« Reply #2 on: May 09, 2005, 12:53:14 pm »
You and everyone else who's comp has corrupted.  Mine's had some dusies.  Wabbit Killer?  Bah, Spammah Killer!!

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« Reply #3 on: May 09, 2005, 01:44:10 pm »
Can I hazard a guess that you ran into another virus??!?  Or are you still dealing with the one that you thought you removed.  Honestly that this point I think the best thing to do is to reformat/reload your hard drive.  I know it is a pain in the @ss, I've had to do it way too many times myself.  But with what you are looking at, it is the only thing I could suggest.  I know this sucks and wish there was something more I could do.  If you have any questions feel free to ask.

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« Reply #4 on: May 09, 2005, 01:55:06 pm »
If you've got cash to spare - pick up a new HD, and install that one with the old one NOT on the system.  Get patched, antivirus antispyware etc - then put the old HD in (but NOT as boot drive), and scan away.

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« Reply #5 on: May 09, 2005, 02:15:53 pm »
Shoot Ben, I'll try and call you tonight and see If we can't get you back up and running.

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Re: I hate compuiters!!!
« Reply #6 on: May 09, 2005, 02:21:27 pm »
At the risk of sounding like an ass, Angel slayer, have you considered getting a mac?  You can't Play SFC, but most name brand games are on the mac.  Also, no viruses, no spamware, no malware, etc etc, it's considerably more secure than windows, easier to use with alot of nice features.  The apple community is very open and helping, also, unlike the PC community at large, where places like this tend to be a very small safe haven for those with PC issues.  The point?  Though we are lucky to have kind hearted people on these forums, most people using PCs cannot find the type of help we have here.  The mac community, though, will help you out in a sinch.
Low end laptops start at $999 at apple, with discounts for students, educators, government employees and veterans.

The new mac mini starts at $499, and will work with your current keyboard and monitor.  If you have a CRT, though, you may need an adapter.  Not sure how much they are, i think less than $20

On the PC road, store data on a second HD.  STOP USIING EXPLORER.  Get firefox or something.  Maybe netscape.  Make sure you have a third party firewall installed and activated.  Don't leave you puter on the net when you aren't using it.  That's all I can think of right now.
Good luck
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But tell me, can you heal what father's done?
Or fix this hole in a mother's son?
Can you heal the broken worlds within?
Can you strip away so we may start again?
Tell me, can you heal what father's done?
Or cut this rope and let us run?
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Re: I hate compuiters!!!
« Reply #7 on: May 09, 2005, 02:54:43 pm »
At the risk of sounding like an ass, Angel slayer, have you considered getting a mac?  You can't Play SFC, but most name brand games are on the mac.  Also, no viruses, no spamware, no malware, etc etc, it's considerably more secure than windows, easier to use with alot of nice features.  The apple community is very open and helping, also, unlike the PC community at large, where places like this tend to be a very small safe haven for those with PC issues.  The point?  Though we are lucky to have kind hearted people on these forums, most people using PCs cannot find the type of help we have here.  The mac community, though, will help you out in a sinch.
Low end laptops start at $999 at apple, with discounts for students, educators, government employees and veterans.

The new mac mini starts at $499, and will work with your current keyboard and monitor.  If you have a CRT, though, you may need an adapter.  Not sure how much they are, i think less than $20

On the PC road, store data on a second HD.  STOP USIING EXPLORER.  Get firefox or something.  Maybe netscape.  Make sure you have a third party firewall installed and activated.  Don't leave you puter on the net when you aren't using it.  That's all I can think of right now.
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Re: I hate compuiters!!!
« Reply #8 on: May 09, 2005, 10:31:24 pm »
Sorry Clark, Don't think Half Life 2, Far Cry, Doom 3, or any games by EA run on a mac ;) However, Solitare might. Oh, and freecell! Freecell is great.

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Re: I hate compuiters!!!
« Reply #9 on: May 09, 2005, 10:37:30 pm »
Sorry Clark, Don't think Half Life 2, Far Cry, Doom 3, or any games by EA run on a mac ;) However, Solitare might. Oh, and freecell! Freecell is great.

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Some people here have no sense of sarcasm.

You sure?  I don't care to bother to look since these are all games I am uninterested in.  I do know they had Halo 2, which I was interested in.  I thought I saw Doom last time I was at the apple store, and half life as well, but I didn'tlook clsely, so I don't know the versions.
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But tell me, can you heal what father's done?
Or fix this hole in a mother's son?
Can you heal the broken worlds within?
Can you strip away so we may start again?
Tell me, can you heal what father's done?
Or cut this rope and let us run?
Just when all seems fine, and I'm pain free, you jab another pin,
Jab another pin in me
-Metallica

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Re: I hate compuiters!!!
« Reply #10 on: May 10, 2005, 12:33:49 am »
Did a complete overwrite and restore, and downloaded protection.  Once again, thanks guys, but WillWeasel came through again.  He is just finishing.  Gotta love slave labor.  I'll have to buy him a soda later for this.


NPR is a lot like NASCAR.  Two hundred miles an hour in a circle, and you end up right back where you started with nothing but lost time for the effort.


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Re: I hate compuiters!!!
« Reply #11 on: May 10, 2005, 01:04:15 am »
doom3 is on the mac, hl2 is not however as it requires steam and steam is not compatable last i checked
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Re: I hate compuiters!!!
« Reply #12 on: May 11, 2005, 01:38:11 am »
ah doom 3 is on the mac. Didn't know that :P

Me... I love sports games (madden, NBA Live, etc), so I need windows. I also play a lot of HL and HL2 engine games (CS, etc), as well as freelancer. I need windows :P
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Re: I hate compuiters!!!
« Reply #13 on: May 11, 2005, 01:47:39 am »
ah doom 3 is on the mac. Didn't know that :P

Me... I love sports games (madden, NBA Live, etc), so I need windows. I also play a lot of HL and HL2 engine games (CS, etc), as well as freelancer. I need windows :P

Haven't had much time for games lately, but I'm more toward the strategy games end.  I like SFC, so I'm a bit bummed it isn't on the mac, but I'll live, since I can't seem to stop playing it once I start.  Other than that, gimme one of the civilization games,and I'm a happy camper.
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But tell me, can you heal what father's done?
Or fix this hole in a mother's son?
Can you heal the broken worlds within?
Can you strip away so we may start again?
Tell me, can you heal what father's done?
Or cut this rope and let us run?
Just when all seems fine, and I'm pain free, you jab another pin,
Jab another pin in me
-Metallica

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Re: I hate compuiters!!!
« Reply #14 on: May 11, 2005, 02:41:45 am »
Well you know, If your mac is fast enough, you might be able to run a windows emulator. I heard they were making some real process with that. You should at least be able to run SFC1, or 2 on that, shouldn't you?
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Re: I hate compuiters!!!
« Reply #15 on: May 11, 2005, 07:10:14 am »
Well you know, If your mac is fast enough, you might be able to run a windows emulator. I heard they were making some real process with that. You should at least be able to run SFC1, or 2 on that, shouldn't you?

I don't ever see that happening, the transition between WinXP to Mac would slow the emulator down too much.  That doesn't even take into account the processing power to run a game a full tilt.  WinXP is a resource hog on it's own, now Win2000 Pro... Hmmm that might have a better chance but trying to run a game through two operating systems and a translator is going to really hard to pull off.

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« Reply #16 on: May 11, 2005, 10:41:28 am »
Well you know, If your mac is fast enough, you might be able to run a windows emulator. I heard they were making some real process with that. You should at least be able to run SFC1, or 2 on that, shouldn't you?

Right  now the issue isn't processing power, but the lack of graphical support MS has put into VPC.  I have enough power to run SFC1 on my iBook, I estimated, but MS installed a very very generic GPU support, that does not take advantage of any of the graphics features that macs come with.  In any event, the GPU support is so weak I can't even launch the program.
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But tell me, can you heal what father's done?
Or fix this hole in a mother's son?
Can you heal the broken worlds within?
Can you strip away so we may start again?
Tell me, can you heal what father's done?
Or cut this rope and let us run?
Just when all seems fine, and I'm pain free, you jab another pin,
Jab another pin in me
-Metallica

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« Reply #17 on: May 11, 2005, 08:53:49 pm »
Aw that sux...

And Javora I was thinking more of like a Win 98 emulator.
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« Reply #18 on: May 11, 2005, 09:38:06 pm »
Aw that sux...

And Javora I was thinking more of like a Win 98 emulator.

VPC (Virtual PC) is useful, because there are several versions available- even among the ones that are current products.  Right now, I use VPC on my iBook with Win2kpro, but have considered getting my hands on XP as well.  You can run as many versions as you like, as long as you have hard disk space, so If I so chose, I could load my old copy of windows 98.
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But tell me, can you heal what father's done?
Or fix this hole in a mother's son?
Can you heal the broken worlds within?
Can you strip away so we may start again?
Tell me, can you heal what father's done?
Or cut this rope and let us run?
Just when all seems fine, and I'm pain free, you jab another pin,
Jab another pin in me
-Metallica

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Re: I hate compuiters!!!
« Reply #19 on: May 17, 2005, 01:08:59 am »
I'm going to write my congressman and try to get a law passed that hackers have their gentiailia removed and served to them on a stinking bun!  With no mustard, either! 

Sethan's tricks to make sure this doesn't happen again:

Assuming you have a broadband connection...

1. Get a router - there's nothing like having any incoming packets you don't request, dropped, to discourage hackers.

2. Get a good Antivirus package and update it religiously (or set it to autoupdate, and scan at least once a week).

3. Install Lavasoft's Adaware, and update and run it any time your system so much as hiccups.

4. Use Firefox or some other third party browser.  Whatever it is, keep it updated.

5. Use Thunderbird or some other third-party Email program (I use an ancient copy of Netscape).

6. Don't surf porn or download Warez.

I haven't had a virus in years.
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Re: I hate compuiters!!!
« Reply #20 on: May 17, 2005, 01:17:05 am »
6. Don't surf porn or download Warez.

I haven't had a virus in years.

WTF is wrong with you boy?  Jebus.    >:(
CK

But tell me, can you heal what father's done?
Or fix this hole in a mother's son?
Can you heal the broken worlds within?
Can you strip away so we may start again?
Tell me, can you heal what father's done?
Or cut this rope and let us run?
Just when all seems fine, and I'm pain free, you jab another pin,
Jab another pin in me
-Metallica

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« Reply #21 on: May 17, 2005, 01:57:25 am »
6. Don't surf porn or download Warez.

I haven't had a virus in years.

WTF is wrong with you boy?  Jebus.    >:(

Married to a beautiful woman - who needs porn?  I've got the real thing.
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« Reply #22 on: May 17, 2005, 11:43:19 am »
Have a router, and  it is a nuisance.   I'll be hooking it up again in about two weeks.
 
Got Norton 2005, adaware, AVG running at this time.  The more the merrier, right?

Porn?  Why would I waste time on that?  Those sites are infested with one thing, and I have more self respect than to demean myself in that way.  Besides, like you, I  am married to a beautiful woman and don't need it.

I update every week now.  I don't take chances.  I am also fixing to get a DVD drive, and add a new video card so I can play some newer games, like SHIII.   Can't do it on my current set up, so I'll have to get the DVD and card so I can do so.  Still shopping around, and yes, I am well aware of Newegg, and like their prices.


NPR is a lot like NASCAR.  Two hundred miles an hour in a circle, and you end up right back where you started with nothing but lost time for the effort.


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« Reply #23 on: May 17, 2005, 12:15:52 pm »
Bewbies will sag and drop, but porn will last forever
except with my GF, she's 30 and she has the most rock hard natural bewbies I've ever encountered. Go me!!
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But tell me, can you heal what father's done?
Or fix this hole in a mother's son?
Can you heal the broken worlds within?
Can you strip away so we may start again?
Tell me, can you heal what father's done?
Or cut this rope and let us run?
Just when all seems fine, and I'm pain free, you jab another pin,
Jab another pin in me
-Metallica

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Re: I hate compuiters!!!
« Reply #24 on: May 17, 2005, 12:49:32 pm »
6. Don't surf porn or download Warez.

I haven't had a virus in years.

WTF is wrong with you boy?  Jebus.    >:(

Married to a beautiful woman - who needs porn?  I've got the real thing.

I've met his wife, If I ever got into that whole Coveting thing, she'd be the one to Go with.  ;) ;) ;)

God Adam I hope you still respect me after that.

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« Reply #25 on: May 17, 2005, 12:52:46 pm »
6. Don't surf porn or download Warez.

I haven't had a virus in years.

WTF is wrong with you boy?  Jebus.    >:(

Married to a beautiful woman - who needs porn?  I've got the real thing.

Oh my Lord, Sethan, you have real porn?

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« Reply #26 on: May 17, 2005, 01:12:09 pm »
6. Don't surf porn or download Warez.

I haven't had a virus in years.

WTF is wrong with you boy?  Jebus.    >:(

Married to a beautiful woman - who needs porn?  I've got the real thing.

Oh my Lord, Sethan, you have real porn?

<snicker>

I'm with toasty on this, perhaps you should share some of this real porn with us poor misguided soles.   ;D
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But tell me, can you heal what father's done?
Or fix this hole in a mother's son?
Can you heal the broken worlds within?
Can you strip away so we may start again?
Tell me, can you heal what father's done?
Or cut this rope and let us run?
Just when all seems fine, and I'm pain free, you jab another pin,
Jab another pin in me
-Metallica

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« Reply #27 on: May 17, 2005, 03:46:37 pm »


1. Get a router - there's nothing like having any incoming packets you don't request, dropped, to discourage hackers.

3. Install Lavasoft's Adaware, and update and run it any time your system so much as hiccups.

I haven't had a virus in years.

Allow me to emphasize get a good router, I've seen some that should be called switches instead of routers.  Oh and don't buy a switch to protect your system either.   ;D

I would also suggest installing Spy-Bot Search and Destroy as well.  I've noticed that there are some things that Lavasoft and Spy-Bot will catch that the other won't.  So I suggest both.




Have a router, and it is a nuisance.   I'll be hooking it up again in about two weeks.
 
Got Norton 2005, adaware, AVG running at this time.  The more the merrier, right?

I update every week now.  I don't take chances.

As I said above using Adaware and Spy-Bot is a good thing so in that respect the more the merrier is correct.  However using AVG and Norton together and the same time is asking for trouble.  Antivirus programs usually don’t play nice together and IMHO is just asking for trouble.  If Norton is stable for you, I would uninstall AVG, and stick with Norton.  Also set your Norton to auto update, so far it doesn’t steal enough clock cycles to worry about.  Hope this helps.

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« Reply #28 on: May 17, 2005, 06:21:29 pm »
Firefox.  Firewall.  Router (preferably one that does NAT).  Anti-spyware apps if needed.  Any time your system starts acting wierd - scan for spyware.

Dont open attatchments unless you were expecting it.

Use a non-standard email client if dl'ing via POP3 or IMAP.  (Or get a freemail one, or 50.  I reccomend Gmail).


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« Reply #29 on: May 17, 2005, 08:21:09 pm »
Gmail rocks Ben, We have alot of us here that use It now. Let me know If you want an account.

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« Reply #30 on: May 17, 2005, 10:39:08 pm »
Hey Jav-

I am running a firewall router (I think I asked you about it recently  ;) ), but I just uninstalled my Norton Personal Firewall.  I just got tired of Symantec's stuff.  So far my CPU (a hot one, a socket 754 AMD Athlon 64) seems to run maybe a degree or degree and a half cooler.  But would you recommend putting up another software firewall, even if the router does the job?  If so, you got some brands in mind?

Boy, I miss the old DOS days when Norton Utilities was one of the best products on the market.  It rescued me from nonbooting HDs at least a few times.  And, it used to allow you more power to examine and manipulate your HD and files (remember FileCompare or FileDate?... all gutted out by Symantec) without being invasive like the current versions.

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« Reply #31 on: May 18, 2005, 07:05:03 am »
You know Ed, except for that one incident where Trend Micro released that one bad patch that messed up my system.  Their Internet Security package (PC Cillin Internet Security 2005) has been pretty good.  It is really easy to work with when it comes to games.  The only thing it lacks (and the only thing Norton is good for IMHO) is the Ad/Pop-up blocking feature.  So if Ads/Pop-ups bother you, then you may want to stick with Norton.  Otherwise since you are playing games you might try PC Cillin.  On the other hand since you already have a subscription with Norton you could stick with that until it runs out then switch, it will save you a couple of bucks.  But I understand where you are coming from, I hate Norton, they have gotten worse every year since 2002 and I don't think I will ever go back to them.

If you are using more than one computer on a single router you might want to continue using a software firewall.  Who knows what your kids may get into.  Personly I don't feel the need for a software firewall as this Netgear hardware firewall is really good, thus I have shifted the brunt of my security to the antivirus program where I feel it belongs.  But with more than one system on a single router (used by your kids) your milage may very.  I hope this helps, but as tired as I am I'll be lucky if it even makes sense.  Good night.   ;D

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« Reply #32 on: May 18, 2005, 08:57:58 am »
Gmail rocks Ben, We have alot of us here that use It now. Let me know If you want an account.

stephen

I have two gmail accounts.  Nice and roomy.   I doubt I'll ever use all of it, but better too much room than not enough.


NPR is a lot like NASCAR.  Two hundred miles an hour in a circle, and you end up right back where you started with nothing but lost time for the effort.


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« Reply #33 on: May 21, 2005, 01:40:16 pm »
How do you burn something to a CD as a data disc?  I am trying to figure out how to move DIVX from my online computer to the offline one.


NPR is a lot like NASCAR.  Two hundred miles an hour in a circle, and you end up right back where you started with nothing but lost time for the effort.


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« Reply #34 on: May 27, 2005, 11:19:50 am »
Dumb question number 1482:  Is it possible to use a DVD disk on a CD drive to burn info to?  The reason I am asking is, takes up a lot less space than doing it the other way, and would like to know before I spend money on DVD's for that purpose.


NPR is a lot like NASCAR.  Two hundred miles an hour in a circle, and you end up right back where you started with nothing but lost time for the effort.


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Re: I hate compuiters!!!
« Reply #35 on: May 27, 2005, 11:20:49 am »
Dumb question number 1482:  Is it possible to use a DVD disk on a CD drive to burn info to?  The reason I am asking is, takes up a lot less space than doing it the other way, and would like to know before I spend money on DVD's for that purpose.

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« Reply #36 on: May 27, 2005, 11:21:41 am »
Okay.  Thanks, Sethan.  Looks like I am going to need that new drive.   ;D  I'll be cooking with gas by next Friday!


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« Reply #37 on: May 28, 2005, 09:36:47 pm »
Dumb question number 1482:  Is it possible to use a DVD disk on a CD drive to burn info to?  The reason I am asking is, takes up a lot less space than doing it the other way, and would like to know before I spend money on DVD's for that purpose.

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Re: I hate compuiters!!!
« Reply #38 on: May 29, 2005, 12:49:54 am »
Dumb question number 1482:  Is it possible to use a DVD disk on a CD drive to burn info to?  The reason I am asking is, takes up a lot less space than doing it the other way, and would like to know before I spend money on DVD's for that purpose.

Interesting question.  First, you can never just use a DVD disk, it has to be a DVD-R or DVD+R. (The R can be replaced with an RW).

DVD's themselves as far as I know don't burn overall.

As for will the DVDRs burn in a CD drive...depends...

if that CD drive just happens to be a DVD/CD burner/writer than yes...

Not to be confused with just a normal CD burner/writer

But a normal CD drive won't even burn CD's.

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« Reply #39 on: May 29, 2005, 06:25:50 am »
Wow.  I do look stupid here, don't I?  I know it had to be DVD-R/+R or RW, I was just wondering, due to the large amount of storage space on them compared to typical CD's.  I am learning, just going bit by bit, Dash.   ;D


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« Reply #40 on: June 25, 2005, 04:04:12 pm »
Well, got my DVD burner put in finally.  I'll be playing with it over the next week or so trying to see what all I can do with it.  Also put NERO on the computer.  May not be real sure what to do with it, but the name is cool, right?  Back to studying...


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Re: I hate compuiters!!!
« Reply #41 on: June 26, 2005, 08:18:01 am »
I've been using Norton AV and Firewall since 2003.

I currently us the MS Spyware app but it has not found anything yet.

I've not gotten a virus ever.

I've never gotten a Spyware infection that took more the 5 minutes to remove, ever.

All this while surfing p0rn with no reagards.

XP SP2, Some kind of AV/Firewall, and the MS spayware app shold keep you safe and secure.
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