Topic: Cannon check

[AlchemistiD]

I'd like to know if this conforms (for the most part, anyway) with general ST Cannon.  It's the USS Revere lineage history.

Revere Service History:

The USS Revere (NCC-509) was constructed during the period of conflict with the Klingon Empire during  the mid 23rd century.  She was named for the USS Paul Revere (APA/LPA-248), a United States  Amphibious Transport Ship, the first of such ships to recieve the Meritorious Unit Commendation.  Also,  early starfleet records indicate a neptune-class patrol cruiser was also named Revere.

The USS Revere (NCC-509) was a destroyer, typically a fast-response or escort frigate.  However, the USS  Revere stands out from the Destroyer pack.  Her mission record includes 10 sucsessful engagements with  Klingon Raptor fleets, several deep-space rescue missions, and first contact with over 20 races, both  within and out of the Milky Way galaxy, according to the mission logs of her master, Flag Admiral Will R.  Barry (A Lt. Commander at the time of her maiden voyage).

The USS Revere (NCC-509) was retired shortly after the incident with the alien probe, and the court  martial of Admiral James T. Kirk.  Most of the remaining crew, including freshly promoted 'Captain'  Barry, would return to serve aboard the USS Revere (NCC-509-A).  An Akula-class refit sharing much of it's  improved technology with the Enterprise-Class Constitution refit.  Equipped with state of the art sensor  technology, the Revere-A's primary mission was of peace in aiding the Klingon Empire after the Praxis  Disaster.  A stark contrast to her former assignment as a frontier cruiser patrolling the boundries of  federation space along the Klingon border.

The irony was not lost on Captain Barry, who found it difficult to trust his former adversaries, even when  a Klingon ambassador joined the crew.  However, through the Revere-A's first five-year mission, and  midways through her second, the captain learned to admire the Klingon's code of honor and loyalty, and  even attended Klingon Ambassador Goh'dek's wedding, his son's birth, and tragically, his funeral.  When  the Andromedans began their invasion of the Milky Way by attacking the Klingon world of E'kio, the  colony world where he was born, and where his family lived. 

Captain Barry disobeyed Starfleet orders to return to federation space in order to rescue the Ambassador  and his family.  Goh'dek's wife and son survived, and the Revere-A managed to defeat several fast  Andromedan attack cruisers.  But the ship was left nearly crippled when an Andromedan mothership  joined the battle.  The mothership was ultimately destroyed, but at the cost of the Ambassador's life and  almost half of the Revere-A's crew.  Captain Barry faced a court-martial when the Revere-A limped back  to federation space, but the Klingon High Council interceded on his behalf.

The Revere-A went on to play a significant role in the war against the Andromedan invaders,  coordinating with Klingon and Hydran forces in key battles.  She also participated in the final battle of  the war, the Battle of Edo, and was destroyed by her master INSIDE the Andromedan Worldship, putting  an end to the war, and an era.

A year after the war, the USS Revere (NX-509-B) was commisioned as a testbed for a possible Revere- Class refit of the venerable Akula-Class, which proved it's mettle a hundred fold during the war.   Unfortunately, the Revere-Class was never mass produced, but the Revere-B's registry was changed to  NCC-509-B, and she was sent off on another five year mission.  Captain Barry had been promoted to  Admiral, however, and was reassigned to Starfleet Command's headquarters in San Francisco.   Commander Maya O'neill, who began her career as the helm officer of the USS Revere (NCC-509) just  prior to the V'Ger incident, took command of the latest starship.  A few of the surviving senior crew  returned as well.

Commander Oneill's first command was cut tragically short.  Three years after her shakedown cruise, the  Revere-B disappeared with all hands, without a trace, in the nebulous region of space known as the  Aries Expanse.

The Revere-class design would live on in the Constellation-Class heavy cruiser, which incorporated many  of the new technologies and design concepts created for the Revere-Class.

That's all I have thus far, I'm working on an addendum that describes the Revere-B's fate and the alien tech she currently carries.

"Di-Luminite Torpedos" and other stuff.

[KBF-Kapact]

I think you've told a pretty good story. Only two things stand out, and they are not specifically against canon.... just questionable. You mention Klingon Raptors in the mid 23rd Century (IIRC)... and while they were certainly there in the 22nd Century, I don't know if they would still be using them a hundred years later. Of course, they used the basic D7 hull for two hundred years (thanks B&B  ), I suppose it's possible the Raptor could be around for the 23rd Century. Also, was the Klingon Ambassador assigned to the crew? That strilkes me as unusual. Or could it have been maybe a special diplomatic function intended to help foster the new peace accords? Good idea, now that I think about it. Anyway, I think you've done a good job with this. I tend to do the same sort of thing with Klingon ships and crews. It's a nice way of fleshing out characters... giving them, bits of history to explore in depth later on. Well done...



Kapact

[AlchemistiD]

Also, was the Klingon Ambassador assigned to the crew? That strilkes me as unusual. Or could it have been maybe a special diplomatic function intended to help foster the new peace accords?

The peace accords assignment was what I intended.  Sorry about that.  Sometimes when I'm typing something my mind goes faster than my fingers.

About the Raptors, since the Klingons use Birds of Prey at least a hundred years after they were introduced in ST3, I assumed they would still be using some variants of the old Raptor in the late 23rd Century as well.  Albeit refitted.  But outside of surplus, I'm pretty positive they were long decommisioned by the time TNG takes place.  Natch.

[Commander La'ra]

Using Raptor's in the 23rd century doesn't seem like too much of a stretch to me.  Warship design didn't change too much on Earth from the late 1500's to the early 1800's.  Toss in the lack of environmental wear, stronger hull materials, and modular systems that can be easily upgraded and a good hull design could easily last a century.

[AlchemistiD]

Part 2 of the Revere info.

ADDENDUM:  Filed by Admiral Kathryn Janeway

-CONFIDENTIAL-

It seems the Revere-B was not destroyed as previously believed, but encountered an unstable anomaly  that deposited the craft in another galaxy known as NGC 1300, approximately 70,000,000 light-years from  the Milky Way.  (The inhabbitants of the NGC 1300 galaxy seem to universally refer to it as "R'e na".)

We have learned that the Revere-B was not only sent through space, but time as well.  Approximately  two-hundred years into the past, to be precise.  Much of the log data we recieved via the Preserver  device was corrupted, and we are still analyzing it.  For now, all we can determine is that sometime, the  Revere-B's crew decided to settle on a backwater M-Class world.  And that for some reason, they did not  deconstruct the Revere-B to build their settlement.

The Revere-B has survived the last 200 years, and has been extensively repaired and refitted with Alien  technology.  Following this is a brief description of her current capabilities.

Type:  Unknown (Advanced sensor technology has been installed, easily on par with the sensors on an  Intrepid-Class.  However the ship also posseses a fierce compliment of weapons.)

Accomodation:  115 at time of her launch from Mckinley Station, with an emergency evacuation capacity  of 3000.  Current crew compliment is unknown.

Propulsion:  Sidewarp Drive (Analysis is continuing)
One split-impulse drive.
Fuel Replenishment- Subspace Syphon   

Performance:  Sidewarp 9 (Normal cruise), Sidewarp 12.5 (Maximum Safe Velocity), Sidewarp 14.9999  (Maximum estimated speed.  Sidewarp 15 is estmated to be the Sidewarp Equivalent of Warp 10.)

Weaponry:  Eight type 8 phaser arrays. (12 ports on saucer, 2 facing aft on tactical hull.)
4 torpedo launchers (2 facing forward on the Tactical hull, 2 facing aft between the impulse engines)(It  should be known that the torpedo launchers have been fitted for weapons called "Di-Luminite" Fusor  Torpedos.  Alleged to be extremely potent, this "Luminite" seems to have properties simillar to  Dilithium.)
2 small full spectrum navigational deflector/sensor arrays on the forward tactical hull.

Defenses:  Adaptive/Regenerative shields, secondary combat HIF.

Auxiliary Vessels:  four small craft of varying functions in two Shuttlebays on the saucer.
One larger multipurpose craft in a launch bay on aft of tactical hull.

Following is known information on the current crew. 

<<Access terminated>>
HIGHER CLEARANCE REQUIRED

I know...it's a little out there.  Just trying to picture a heavily upgraded Akula (Or Revere-Class refit). 

I got Sidewarp from the book Star Trek Federation.  In the epilogue I believe.
Type 8 Phasers are what I believe are used in the time period with the Constellation's construction. 
Di-Luminite just sounds cool, I pictures the ship rapidly firing bright white torpedoes with red and blue trails.  Sort of like light coming off a reflector.

[KBF-Kapact]

Using Raptor's in the 23rd century doesn't seem like too much of a stretch to me.  Warship design didn't change too much on Earth from the late 1500's to the early 1800's.  Toss in the lack of environmental wear, stronger hull materials, and modular systems that can be easily upgraded and a good hull design could easily last a century.

Fair enough....


 


Kapact

[Grim Reaper]

Part 2 of the Revere info.

The Revere-B has survived the last 200 years, and has been extensively repaired and refitted with Alien  technology.  Following this is a brief description of her current capabilities.

Why would aliens refit the Revere?

Type:  Unknown (Advanced sensor technology has been installed, easily on par with the sensors on an  Intrepid-Class.  However the ship also posseses a fierce compliment of weapons.)

Defenses:  Adaptive/Regenerative shields, secondary combat HIF.

shivers She's not gonna be an uber ship is she?

I know...it's a little out there.  Just trying to picture a heavily upgraded Akula (Or Revere-Class refit). 

I can't really find a good Akula reference. Daystrom doesn't have it. Any good references to her abilities? Something that compares her to a klingon contempary

[AlchemistiD]

Why would aliens refit the Revere?

They didn't.  Technically.  All will be revealed in time. 
Off hand however, in 200 years, she could have been used by many different masters for many different purposes.  Mercs, Militia, ect.

She's not gonna be an uber ship is she?

Nope, but she needs to keep up with the other ships that will be *cough*"Three Stars"*cough*"Andromedan Crescent"*cough*

I can't really find a good Akula reference. Daystrom doesn't have it. Any good references to her abilities? Something that compares her to a klingon contempary

I'd say the Akula (f-dd) is the Federation's trump on the standard BOP.  As they came to exist during the period of conflict between the Federation and Klingon Empire. 

[Commander La'ra]

I'd say the Akula (f-dd) is the Federation's trump on the standard BOP.  As they came to exist during the period of conflict between the Federation and Klingon Empire. 

Is this the Akula-class from Ships of Star Fleet?

[AlchemistiD]

Is this the Akula-class from Ships of Star Fleet?

I've never seen Ships of Starfleet.  So I don't know.

The Akula-Class as it appears in ST: Shattered Universe

[CaptJosh]

Just a small note. The word is canon. A cannon is a weapon.

[Commander La'ra]

Just a small note. The word is canon. A cannon is a weapon.

Bad Josh!  Nitpicky Josh!  Don't make me get the prunes!

[Scottish Andy]

LOL La'ra

[CaptJosh]

I will forever nitpick on spelling. If I don't, my sister won't speak to me. She's an English teacher.

EDIT: DIE, THOU THRICE-DAMNED TYPO GREMLIN!

[Governor Ronjar]

AN English teacher. Can't be all nit-pick-ety and still say "a English" and all that...

Get the prunes, I'll get the castor-oil!

[CaptJosh]

Gah! The typo gremlin struck again! I'll fix that, straight away.

[Jaeih t`Radaik]

Hi AlchemistiD,

I always like it when people come up with their own detailed histories for their characters/ships/storylines. It means they care enough about the story enough to add some depth to it, and you've certainly done that.

As for it's canon status, however, I'm afraid you failed at the first jump. The canon, official Trek USS Revere is a scout ship, NCC-595, which was ordered to rendezvous with the scout Columbia NCC-621 in 'Star Trek: The Motion Picture'. This was heard in the radio chatter around Epsilon IX before they detected V'Ger battling the Klingon battlecruisers.

In semi-canon (and, I think, SFC), the Revere (and Columbia) are Hermes-class scouts, which are Saladin-class destroyers without their photorps and 2 of their 3 phaser banks. This is from the 'Franz Joseph Technical Manual', which is where the writers for 'ST:TMP' got them from when the Tech Manual was still considered semi-canon itself. As you may know, SFC is taken from the board game 'Star Fleet Battles', which has the Tech Manual as its origin point.

The rest of the history can be taken at face value, even if I think the Revere would have been named for the man himself rather than a Navy Auxiliary troop transport.

I like your reference to the Reeves-Stevens' book 'Federation', it's one of my all-time favourites too.

As one of my more forthright and opinionated online friends is wont to point out, the -A designation added to a ship's NCC number was a singular honour applied to the Enterprise and no other ship should have it, but so many fan fics and published novels have it that it isn't realy worth mentioning. You could give the second Revere a different NCC, though.

All the advanced tech... I'm not so sanguine about that, but it is, after all, your universe. Have fun playing in it. *smile*

Anyway, that's my tuppence. Take it for what it's worth.

[AlchemistiD]

Actually, that's not true.

In an early episode of Star Trek: The Next Generation, the Enterprise get's trapped within a 'Rat Maze' created by an advanced being, where they see illusions, such as attacking warbirds.

One of these illusions is another Galaxy-Class ship, the Yamato.  Riker reads her registry, and clearly reads an 'E' at the end of it. 

The Enterprise may have been humanitys first true deep space starship, but she's far from the only one to distinguish herself.  Especially given the fact that there are hundreds of starships in starfleet.

On the other points however...well, damn.  *Sigh*  Back to the notepad.


This sucks, because I had drawn what I imagine the Revere would look like in R'e na (NGC 1300), during my history class.  I was bored :p

(Oh, and it's pronounced 'Ra-hey na'.  Yeah, I was at the stage of planning where things start getting anal.)



I want to put some slightly more alien looking engines on her, but Sun Legion (Officially named 'Legion of Suns', but Sun Legion saves on the tounge.) Sidewarp nacelles just don't fit with the ship's look.

Well, at least it doesn't affect the Kasurans or the rest of the Sun Legion.  Or any of the other resident races in R'e na.

Also, I'm working on a short story to introduce the main character.  Pre-getting thrown into another galaxy.

[Scottish Andy]

Yeah, the Yamato. That's listed in the 'Star Trek Encyclopedia' as a error on the writers' part as it didn't fit into the registry scheme Mike Okuda had created for the TNG ships. He had asked them to change it, but it wa cut rhen reinsrtated. The number was corrected later in the episode 'Contagion' when the Yamato is destroyed in 2365. In that episode it is listed as NCC-71807, and that was on the ship's saucer, visual logs, and dedication plaque.

[AlchemistiD]

Well, Crap.  I stand corrected again.  I say again.  Well, crap.

'Scuse me ppl, I gotta go ice down my ego now.