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[Akira_Commander567]

Impressive, very impressive, but I'd had a way to make a way to give clan marks to the ship.It would make it more believeable for many people. I'm also having a problem in the fact that the ship does have no reconizable phaser or disrupter banks on it.

[Raven Night]

Ok, she has a few disruptors placed on the hull here and there, as well as other weapons, as follows....

1) First pic, short range light disruptor, defensive, located on aft dorsal sensor pod. One is also located on the belly, and one on each wings outer edge, port and starboard. I will also be placing one on the ventral face of the crew module (the horizontal cylinder just below the neck, aft of the bridge section.). There are two small hanger decks there for small shuttles.

2) A medium disruptor battery in the nose, 4 cannons.

3) A heavy disruptor pod, long range, two cannons, one pod under each wing.

4) Aft section, one medium battery of two cannons below the main hangar deck and the aft torpedo launcher.

As to the clan marking, great idea, tell me where it should be located and I will cut a poly for that location and create a standard map there so people can just place the clan marking in that area on the texture, and it will appear on the ship.

[Raven Night]

Oh, and one more pic...I cant help myself.

Im going to release a blackfleet version, as a bow to my Newships days and SFC1. Complete with red skull on the nacelle strut hehe.

Here is a pic...

[Fallen_Warrior]

nice

[markyd]

very cool....   great work.

[Akira_Commander567]

While I've got no idea where to find the markings, the marks are often use family symbols and more often than not, they've got the number of kills the ship has made on the side nearst to the bridge. But it depends on the clan as well, some Klingon clan ships are red, deep green, or even a dark orange. But you may have to find out for yourself because the things I listed here are rumors I've heard of on my travels through the Internet.I hope it helps!

[Raven Night]

Ok, here is the nacelle detailing sofar. Im almost done with the mid panel, still have to do the top and bottom edges, and the details aft and fore on the nacelle, but you get the idea.

[Rogue NineCH]

Wow this ship is looking better and better, excellent work!

[Akira_Commander567]

Very impressive. I'm in awe of your model, could you send me a copy?Please.

[markyd]

awsome work on the detail, it looks like its slighltly darker than the rest of the hull though.. or is that just my monitor?

great work

[Akira_Commander567]

Perhaps you should add a missle bay on the ship?

[Raven Night]

Thanks for the comments guys.

No copy till it is released

Its your monitor I think....The hues are the same, could be lighting.

Missile bay?

Oh, and I pulled a dufis...JUST realized that the symbol on the side of the ship was for the house of Gorkon....duh. Ok, so a fix and an option that will be built into this model.

I will include a number of house plates with this set of textures, allowing someone to just swap out the map to change the clan symbol, or just design their own if they wish. The house symbol (or whatever you want to put there) will appear perfectly on the left and right nacelle strut. I will post a few examples....

Note that you will not need to have artistic skills to change the house symbol...you just drop in the new pic into the folder and it will appear.

The question I have for you guys is as follows....will this create a problem with the conversion to mod format, and will it have the same effect?

[Fallen_Warrior]

it could do, depends on a few things, will the texture that people drop in just be the symbol and will it be mapped...if that the case then quite possibly be an issue.. If its just the texture for that area with different symbols on then no it wont be

[Raven Night]

Its actually a seperate map just for those polys. I cut a section of polys out of the strut, and mapped that section to a completely seperate map thats on the small side...examples are shown below.

What I have done is evident. First of all, standard map is clean, no house symbol. I have created 6 house symbols sofar, with one more to make (Mogh), and I will make any others you guys can post. I will offer the flashes as a seperate zipped download so people can choose the house they want to display, or they can just use the one single map and make their own.

Since it is just a colorize of the panel area, no change to the glow or spec maps are needed. If you do your own symbol, I would suggest this method, but I will include instructions on how to do it both ways just in case.

So you will be able to have a ship that displays YOUR house if you want. If this works out, I can do the same thing with Feds.

Now, I know that some of the houses listed would be invalid for one reason or another...I simply include them because they are actually canon. Including the PROPER Duras house symbol, before it was altered by Lursa and B'Etor to include them and Toral in the mix. Apparantly, according to a friend, the symbol on the bottom is the original Duras crest.

At any rate, clean, example and a flag sheet shown.

Please, if you know of any others I can add, let me know.

BTW, I may have to reduce the size of the Gowron and Martok crests, they seem a bit too big.

[Raven Night]

One more update....House of Mogh

[Lepton]

Some really, really amazing detailing in your texturing job.  First rate.

[Akira_Commander567]

Those were some of the clan markings I was talking about. I wasn't sure that they existed though................

[markyd]

nice work with those insignias, you going to cut them up a bit, like they where scorched or summat?

[Raven Night]

Well, I may add some weathering here and there on the panels.

Here is the next set, this will be it I think for now unless someone finds others. Of course, alot of these are invalid because of history, but it just gives you the option to use the house symbol of your choice, or you can just make your own.

[Akira_Commander567]

More impressive than before, I'm glad you took my advice. The clan marks will make the ship very belivable to any Trek fan, even one as picky as me.

[GotAFarmYet?]

More to the point where did you find the list of Klingon houses and their symbols?

[Raven Night]

Well, I did a search on the internet, and looked for those house symbols that were shown at least three times. It also helped if the site was reputable.

Then I took some liberty from there, assuming that the symbol painted on the side of the ship was a symbol representation of the house symbol, if Gorkon's symbol is an example. I decided that they use a very plain graphic in red and yellow, and fashioned each one to be similar to the established house crest.

[Akira_Commander567]

I'm very impressed by your effort. You could also try to make some mercenary marks, for Klingon mercenaries. You could also try making them in Fedration markings for a captured or purchased ship.

[Raven Night]

I had to make some changes to the windows...what I discovered was, if I went with the size of the windows, the ship would be far too small. I want it to be a bit bigger than the original D-7.

And in keeping with the original's style, it had two rows of windows anyway, so here are the changes I made, as well as some small nose texture tweaks around the torp launcher.

Another few notes...though this pic doesnt show it, I really hated the mirrored windows and decided to fix it. Now the port side has a different map for the windows, so the lit pattern is different, which makes the ship look much better.

Also, in case I didnt indicate it before the ship sits at about 5000 polys, using 2048 textures....two sets of three (diffuse, glow, specular) and one small map for the nacelle strut. So a total of 9 maps overall.

My current ceiling for polys is about 7500. I have also changed the base color of the polys textured by map set 1 as green, map set 2 as blue and map set 3 as red. That way it will be easy to see which set covers which polys, if someone wants to know. Each diffuse map will have a color block on it matched to the base color of the polys so it is easy to match them up.

My question to you guys is....does base color of the polys really matter? I expect it wouldnt, but I just wanted to be sure.

[markyd]

Its a great looking ship raven

[Raven Night]

Thanks, here is a pic of the nacelle progress inboard. There is a small part I havent finished yet, but you get the idea.

[Ravok]

 Beautifull !!!! Drool... Drool...

 Q ` apLaH !!!

[markyd]

Its not normally summat i would comment on, but being as your so fussy with your detail, i reckon i can get away with saying id like to see the buzzard looking chunkyer, bulk her up with more panels, texture wise.. but it looks sweet as a nut raven. 

[Shadowfleet]

If drool mixed with sand makes concrete - I could be stuck right where I am for a long time... EGGSELLENT work Raven. I can't wait to add her to my Klink fleet.

[Raven Night]

Its not normally summat i would comment on, but being as your so fussy with your detail, i reckon i can get away with saying id like to see the buzzard looking chunkyer, bulk her up with more panels, texture wise.. but it looks sweet as a nut raven. 

No, I appreciate the comments and suggestions....she has to be as perfect as I can get her for my skill level. That means I need criticism.

That said, the inboard panel is smoother than the rest of ship mainly because the studio model showed this panel to be almost devoid of detail, save the actual vents themselves. Well, I wasnt having a plain panel, so I added some detail.