I.S.S Agressor WIP (05/7)

[**M23**]

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Hello,

I was posting this ship at BCC forums and i was told in a email i should post here also as this forum recieves better feedback on TOS/ENT designs.
So here is my Terran AU ship, im looking for design ideas and additions .. as well as modelling advice if its available.


**Deflector area suggestions are especially helpfull**

[F9thCenturus]

She gives me the feel that she's a mix between ENT/TOS/earlyTMP.  I like it.

As for the deflector area.  Perhaps curve in the deflector, and build a fancy deflector array on top of it in the same shape.

Other than that, she looks good.

[Klingon Fanatic]

The deflector area reminds me of the TNG era USS Dawnstar. With some changes to the warp engines I could see this as a TNG ship as well.

However, the big question for me is wht does the TMP version look like?

Qapla'

KF

[I, Mudd.]

I'm diggin' those impulse drives ...

... and the nacelles are pretty sweet too ... very Pre-TOS/retrotrek kind of feel on those.

As far as the deflector dish goes ... I'd mount it an the secondary hull where you'd think it goes ... with three braces and backlight the area behind it, as per Enterprise ... imho.

Good work ... curious to know what your polly count is ...



JM.

[**M23**]

Thank you, i will consider them all, as per muds abvice i went with braces.. only two though.

Klingon Fanatic : I plan on creating A tng version next, complete rebuild... then using both models create a TMP style version.

Poly count currently resides in the 8k polys.  16k triangles. -   i dont know what sfc can handle but this model is going to be converted to bc and legacy.. and if i cut the poly count enough sfc.. but i dont know what the poly limit is for sfc.

**edit after further research i have learnt that sfc will run fine on a standard machine with a model of 15k polys**  <---- good news for me.. now all i have to learn is conversion, I have Orion Pirates.. but whats the common output for the series?**

[Spartan-039]

Awesome.

[**M23**]

I now look at the rest of the vessel as out of era to the necelles...   so the necelles will be archived for future use..   TMP necelles needed.

[Spartan-039]

I thought the nacelles made it look pretty good, but you're the ships creator and yo know what to do.

[**M23**]

Thankf for ur input... but... new phasers and bridge and necelles are needed.. i will save all though for future ref..

[Spartan-039]

Perhaps you could use an Enterprise-B nacelles for you ship...........

[Vipre]

Really nice nacelle design, I'd love to see a "traditional" style PTOS design built around them. I think the ship looks great, the only thing that popped out at me and it may just be optical illusion from the picture angle are the torpedo tubes. They seem oversized by 25% or so.

[Rod ONeal]

You could probably make this more pre-TOS by loosing a few of the TMP/TNG style designs.

Possibly,
change the warp pylons to a thinner straight design
add a retro design dish
make the 2ndary hull cylindrical with less rear cutout
a simpler neck design without the ridge extending down the 2ndary hull

Then give it the Ent era plating/texture treatment.

PS loose the phasers too.

[F9thCenturus]

All SFC versions use the .MOD format for the models.  SFC1 however doesn't use any lightmaps, so lightmaps attached to the model for SFC1 isn't needed.  SFC2/OP/3 use lightmaps quite nicely.

Pretty much everyone here can spec any model for use in any version of SFC, so if you need any help porting any of your models to SFC, or would like to do it yourself, all you have to do is ask and we'll help you out.

[Kreeargh]

Thank you, i will consider them all, as per muds abvice i went with braces.. only two though.

Klingon Fanatic : I plan on creating A tng version next, complete rebuild... then using both models create a TMP style version.

Poly count currently resides in the 8k polys.  16k triangles. -   i dont know what sfc can handle but this model is going to be converted to bc and legacy.. and if i cut the poly count enough sfc.. but i dont know what the poly limit is for sfc.

**edit after further research i have learnt that sfc will run fine on a standard machine with a model of 15k polys**  <---- good news for me.. now all i have to learn is conversion, I have Orion Pirates.. but whats the common output for the series?**

Lookin good    You need 3dmax3 ,4 or 5 only versions the import export plugin works or milkshape but with it you cant do a proper brk mod.  The easyest way is to send the model in Lwo or 3ds format to someone who ports to sfc.

[**M23**]

Thanks for all the information.

I have recieved allot of feedback regarding the change, and the general consensus is to finish what i have first.

[F9thCenturus]

Thank you, i will consider them all, as per muds abvice i went with braces.. only two though.

Klingon Fanatic : I plan on creating A tng version next, complete rebuild... then using both models create a TMP style version.

Poly count currently resides in the 8k polys.  16k triangles. -   i dont know what sfc can handle but this model is going to be converted to bc and legacy.. and if i cut the poly count enough sfc.. but i dont know what the poly limit is for sfc.

**edit after further research i have learnt that sfc will run fine on a standard machine with a model of 15k polys**  <---- good news for me.. now all i have to learn is conversion, I have Orion Pirates.. but whats the common output for the series?**

Lookin good    You need 3dmax3 ,4 or 5 only versions the import export plugin works or milkshape but with it you cant do a proper brk mod.  The easyest way is to send the model in Lwo or 3ds format to someone who ports to sfc.

Agreed.  Personally, I like 3DS format. 

[**M23**]

I have listened to all your comments and suggestions, if they have not been changed etc please dont take it personnaly, i just decided not to go with it..
I did not like the old phasers as they looked too fat and clumsy, Turrets too cheesy and phaser strips WAY out of era.. so i blended the idea.. a phaser strip with a mounted phaser point on a rail system (like a railway track with a phaser mounted on so it can slide and cover other arcs)
, so like a precursor to the strip phasers you may say.  (I believe it has been done b4) Mesh is pretty much complete at 17k triangles and 8.5k polys.

Texturing my begin tonight, buzards and necelles first up..  Buzzard collectors? ENT or TOS?

[**M23**]

BCC say TOS 

I need to fiddle with them at a later point, but for now their good enough to move on and come back too 

[**M23**]

So... I was going to move on... but couldnt drag myself away from the buzzards until they where done..

**NOTE**    I apologise in advance for the amount of small variation posts... i.e one change then show... but i'd rather get input instantly, before i have left something and cannot be assed to come back to it..

Right.. there done, engines next ty

[**M23**]

ohhhh so much work to be done 

[F9thCenturus]

I'm digging those warp grill textures.  Is it my imagination, or does it look like the phaser banks are mounted on an extruded rail?  Just curious.

[Vipre]

Not your imagination and not too shabby IMHO.

I did not like the old phasers as they looked too fat and clumsy, Turrets too cheesy and phaser strips WAY out of era.. so i blended the idea.. a phaser strip with a mounted phaser point on a rail system (like a railway track with a phaser mounted on so it can slide and cover other arcs)
, so like a precursor to the strip phasers you may say.  (I believe it has been done b4) Mesh is pretty much complete at 17k triangles and 8.5k polys.

[F9thCenturus]

Not your imagination and not too shabby IMHO.

I did not like the old phasers as they looked too fat and clumsy, Turrets too cheesy and phaser strips WAY out of era.. so i blended the idea.. a phaser strip with a mounted phaser point on a rail system (like a railway track with a phaser mounted on so it can slide and cover other arcs)
, so like a precursor to the strip phasers you may say.  (I believe it has been done b4) Mesh is pretty much complete at 17k triangles and 8.5k polys.

Ahhh, missed that part.  Damned my senility!!!!!  It's a nice method of implementation I must say. 

[Spartan-039]

Niiiccceee. If I had to give a rating, I'd give a 9/10

[Fallen_Warrior]

hot damn this is looking sweet. im looking forward to when she gets clothes and alternate era variants. keep it up