In need of GAFY? textures

[GotAFarmYet?]

Yes I did a excelsior in the Aqua blue, it was a P81 version the older one he lit up from SFC 1. Mackie used parts from it for various kitbashes. The textures for the TMP looking X-class ships above will only work for those as they were remapped by me to fit those areas the way I wanted. I currently don't have the software I used in the past and I don't have the knowledge yet in GMax to remap them. About the only thing that can be done is to remove the other parts and try to merge that suacer with new hull. to make it work on the FDDX.

I have a FCX8 but it doesn't cover all  the areas the FDX one does, I only did the areas I needed for the BB. I also have a pod texture for the BB, but again I think I remapped it for that model. So well the pod model can be merged with other ships only that version will the set work for.

I can send you the files if you want them, the white BB, CA, and DN
You will have to send a link to the Shelly as I can not find a reference to her.

will be back in a few more days from my trips and then we can discuss this more.

[GotAFarmYet?]

Posted by: GotAFarmYet?;If it is a Jpeg image there is a additional options button at the bottom of the text box you type in.
Just click there browse to the place you have the pic or texture and post it

As for if I could do better, who knows
It is at this starting point though that most of us got into doing this that you are at though.
The I think I can do that that better, or I want it like this, or that doesn't exist to make it fit right. Don't be afraid to post it you never know we might like it or you could end up being the next WickedZombie or something. You never know until you try, 

Yeah, maybe! Game design with CAD is my intended career, so I guess this is a first step!
Speaking of WickedZombie45, has anyone seen the Klingon version of his W'ked? I have a Federation and a Romulan one, but not the original!
Here are my textures;

Don't know if the pics showed up but it looks like the pod texture I used will not match up looks like I moved the mapping. The other one for the DD neck you could probably clean up yourself with some line work and a blend tool if you have PS or PSP. Well see about getting something on that one later as I want to finish these guys, that I am currently doing, first. You can try this pod version but I am pretty sure it will not work

[ReyvinVinnex]

That looks pretty good, but it'll need adjusting; see post #13 on page 1 for the correct layout.

Here's a link to that Shelly;
http://www.battleclinic.com/docks/dock/3666-U-S-S-Philadelphia-NCC-26123-details.html#3666

I've tied myself up with customizing my XP system, so I haven't spent much time on models recently.

When you say "PS or PSP" do you mean Corel Paintshop / Paintshop Pro? Because I have Paintshop Pro 11; I use it to create PNG templates for making icons (as in Windows .ico format). I haven't explored the advanced features so far . . . so many to choose and test.

[F9thCenturus]

PS = Photoshop

PSP = Paintshop Pro

:-D

[GotAFarmYet?]

That looks pretty good, but it'll need adjusting; see post #13 on page 1 for the correct layout.

Here's a link to that Shelly;
http://www.battleclinic.com/docks/dock/3666-U-S-S-Philadelphia-NCC-26123-details.html#3666

I've tied myself up with customizing my XP system, so I haven't spent much time on models recently.

When you say "PS or PSP" do you mean Corel Paintshop / Paintshop Pro? Because I have Paintshop Pro 11; I use it to create PNG templates for making icons (as in Windows .ico format). I haven't explored the advanced features so far . . . so many to choose and test.

As Cent said the programs are listed there for the abrv.
The Shelby was done by ModelsPlease he basically kitbashed the ship together. The textures are mine from various ships I retextured, or from the bits and pieces I fixed up for Mackie. Yes, I did do a P81 FDn in the aqua set, and also a lighter blue later along with a few Connies and other ships.

The real problem is this I don't have the modified saucer anymore. The 3ds files are long gone, and currently i don't know GMax well enough to redo it. The Saucer would have to copied from a model and merged to the Destroyer without a saucer to do what you are asking. The texture that has already been done could be used at that point, but only a remapping or Kitbash can do what you are asking. Well I am hunting and pecking my way through GMax for my own uses, it will be some time until I am able to reproduce those items. Except for getting things to export right I could probably kitbash it, but not really interested in doing that quite yet.

The Pod is the version I did for the Justice BB, XClass BB, which I remapped to make it more towards my liking. Without the orginal pod, unremapped, available to test things on I doubt I will move things around. Just one of those oddities I like to be able to check my work as I go to see if I like it or not, you can't always tell what it actually will look like on nthe model compared to a flat BMP file. I can get to the DX5 texture in a bit as it uses a stock area.

[F9thCenturus]

So I take it you haven't had any luck yet with getting those impulse engines and pylons mapped that I sent you?

Oh, did you ever get that e-mail I sent you with the background story attached?

[GotAFarmYet?]

I got the story have not had time to read it yet, or work on anything. Hours at work + travel have stopped me from doing almost everything else. The Pod texture is literially from the Justice BB I redid in about 2003-4 I just uploaded the pic from that file of it.

So currently most projects are on hold for me

[ReyvinVinnex]

To tell the truth, I think I've lost interest in this by now.  Too many other things to think about . . . . like, I dunno, HOMEWORK.  Yeah, I think I'm done hitting you up for textures.  Besides, mine are fine, and could get even better with a little work.  Thanks for your help, though!  I'll see you again, sometime!

[GotAFarmYet?]

Np, at least it got me doing some work again

Been kind of in a rut for not finishing things. Think I figured out how to get the area around the bridge done without having to remap it, which would be a big help. Unfortuantly you also caught me at a bad time as well, work picked up and I had to many different projects going. Not to mention I need to learn GMax if I want to remap rework ships like I could in the past with Milkshape which doesn't work on this PC.

Either way I will look at and if anything gets done on it I will post it in this thread.

[GotAFarmYet?]

Well at least I know why the pod texture got remapped, and it is better off that way trust me.

It covers a extremely small area, and has streching issues as well. You are better off cutting the pod from the Justice BB and putting it on the model than using the existing one. This is one of those should have shot the kitbasher type moments. 

Just look at the wasted space, most textures that waste this much space are because there are other things appliedto those areas on the ship. Not this one it is mapped that way and was never used for anything but the pod.

[GotAFarmYet?]

Well still finishing the final bits on these fo9r the CA and DN. The DN needs Registries and some Impulse engine work, to make it different from the CA. The CA just some Registries.

Either Way here are some pics

[GotAFarmYet?]

And the DN

[F9thCenturus]

That secondary hull just really sucks.  The mesh that is.  But anyone who knows me already knows how I feel about that.

[GotAFarmYet?]

I completely again.

It is not continous on the side but made of three seperate area that don't line up. The bottom is a seperate piece that overlaps a few spots. There is streching issues allover it, making detailed work almost impossible. The Saucer can at least be dealt with but could use a remapping not very centered on the ship but that is easy to hide. The engines although low poly and have areas that over lap can be done, and look desent.

Over all experience with the these ships were:
FDDX fun to work on but least options available for the engines.
FDNX and FCAX lower hull kills the model, it is almost impossible to work on.

Almost threw them out but finished it on pure determination, just to do it. I doubt I will ever touch these ships again.

[Furyofaseraph]

well crap. I have yet to touch these guys for my fleet :-(

[F9thCenturus]

well crap. I have yet to touch these guys for my fleet :-(

You'd probably be better off just making new versions of them from the ground up.  Half the mesh components aren't really worth the effort, unless you want to see what you can do with what's there.

[GotAFarmYet?]

well crap. I have yet to touch these guys for my fleet :-(

If I were you I would ignore them, as they more or less fit a altnerate universe rather then the more traditional one. X-Class ships really did not have a place in Trek for the Federation as they would be expirimental warships which they pretty much would not do.

[Furyofaseraph]

well, come on, how much do I adhere to traditional trek.

[GotAFarmYet?]

well, come on, how much do I adhere to traditional trek.

Just was trying to help you out abit there. So what I sjhould have said was:
"These are just the thing they fit too well to be Ignored, but since that would be traditional Trek you will have to skp them"

Either way if you do decide to do them I would replace the lower hull on the CA/DN one with a better one. Nice clean textures can't be done on the current one without allot of remapping.

[F9thCenturus]

well, come on, how much do I adhere to traditional trek.

Just was trying to help you out abit there. So what I sjhould have said was:
"These are just the thing they fit too well to be Ignored, but since that would be traditional Trek you will have to skp them"

Either way if you do decide to do them I would replace the lower hull on the CA/DN one with a better one. Nice clean textures can't be done on the current one without allot of remapping.

I've got one, but it's not exactly the best.  I made it myself.  It needs mapping anyway.

[GotAFarmYet?]

Well keep working at it and I am sure you will get it worked out Centurus. I do have one sugustion to you though when mapping your new hull make a grid pattern and use that for mapping. You will see all the alignment and streching issues very clearly with it.

Anyways lost interest in these guys again. The DD is done, the CA, and the DN are all set except for registries. At this point in time though I have no plans on finishing, and ask Cent if he wants them. After working on that lower hull I could not stand looking at them anymore, to me that section pretty much ruins a ship. It has far to many streching and alignment issues to deal with and I did not want to spend the time on remapping this ship. It was a fun thing to do until I got to that part of the hull.

[F9thCenturus]

I ain't gonna map even the stuff I've made from scratch.  Gonna wait to see if someone comes along that's willing to help walk me through it cause I'll be damned if I gotta figure it out all on my own.  Hell, I still haven't finished the ship, and I'm already looking at a ship that's around 10-11k polys, and that's if I'm lucky.  I'm gonna remake the the torpedo launchers into something that isn't as defined, to cut down on the polys.  May do the same with the deflector.

However, as I said, if anyone wants that secondary hull right now, I can try and fix some of the things I can fix right now, and then send the hull on over and collaborate further, but the hull won't be mapped.

And GAFY, you're right, I don't even wanna touch those old models.  Got way too many headaches.   

[GotAFarmYet?]

Ok, so here it is...
Centurus doesn't have the time to finish these ships either, and I am not going to. So I leave it it up to someone here who wants to finish them off, or they go to the folder of pretty much no return. Not allot left to do on them mostly two need registires, and one needs the SFC1 adjusted. All will need coverting to SFC3 if you want to use them in that game, as those files are not in the zips.

So the list of what needs to be done:
Coversion to SFC 3 if you want to, don't care if you do or don't as I play SFC 2 and they work there.
XCA and XDN need registries added to them
XDD needs the SFC 1 model resized, again don't care if you do this one or not I still play SFC 2

Blanks can be provided for them, well actually the blanks are there they need registries after all.

[GotAFarmYet?]

Ok, so here it is...
Centurus doesn't have the time to finish these ships either, and I am not going to. So I leave it it up to someone here who wants to finish them off, or they go to the folder of pretty much no return. Not allot left to do on them mostly two need registires, and one needs the SFC1 adjusted. All will need coverting to SFC3 if you want to use them in that game, as those files are not in the zips.

So the list of what needs to be done:
Coversion to SFC 3 if you want to, don't care if you do or don't as I play SFC 2 and they work there.
XCA and XDN need registries added to them
XDD needs the SFC 1 model resized, again don't care if you do this one or not I still play SFC 2

Blanks can be provided for them, well actually the blanks are there they need registries after all.

No takers I guess
off to the grave yard they go

[Klingon Fanatic]

C'mon GAFY? At least post them somewhere for us to at least try them out. Maybe someody will be able to help out afterall.

KF

[ReyvinVinnex]

Well, I'm back.  For now, at least.
My dastardly plan to turn my XP operating system into a Vista clone has hit what you might call a little snag; my laptop bit the bullet.  And untill I can suck whatever may be left outta its bricked hard-drive, I'm gonna need your help to at least start to rebuild my model collection.  Most of it's from BattleClinic, though, so I won't need any help there.  I just though I'd stop by and say "Hi! My computer's dead!"  So, I did!
In the meantime, however, my education is coming along.  I don't know if I've mentioned it but I've been taking courses at ITT-Technical Institute for 3-D modelling since September, and coming up in December I'll be starting real Media Arts classes.  So I'm pretty excited!  I plan to start with YouTube submissions (I've made a few suggestions, gotten warm responses, and now I'm getting the cold shoulder) before I work my way on up to more sophisticated (and expensive) endeavors.  (I hate, HATE sounding selfish, but;)  Wish me luck!

>>>>Reyvin Nokaya Vinnex

[GotAFarmYet?]

Well, I'm back.  For now, at least.
My dastardly plan to turn my XP operating system into a Vista clone has hit what you might call a little snag; my laptop bit the bullet.  And untill I can suck whatever may be left outta its bricked hard-drive, I'm gonna need your help to at least start to rebuild my model collection.  Most of it's from BattleClinic, though, so I won't need any help there.  I just though I'd stop by and say "Hi! My computer's dead!"  So, I did!
In the meantime, however, my education is coming along.  I don't know if I've mentioned it but I've been taking courses at ITT-Technical Institute for 3-D modelling since September, and coming up in December I'll be starting real Media Arts classes.  So I'm pretty excited!  I plan to start with YouTube submissions (I've made a few suggestions, gotten warm responses, and now I'm getting the cold shoulder) before I work my way on up to more sophisticated (and expensive) endeavors.  (I hate, HATE sounding selfish, but;)  Wish me luck!

>>>>Reyvin Nokaya Vinnex

Sorry to Hear about your lap top, which is why I always suggest that ppl make backups. I don't and know from experience that you should, unless you don't ming lossing everything everytime.

Good luck in school, hope you can succeed in a career of your choosing