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Offline Corbomite

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Re: Canon Clarification
« Reply #60 on: June 01, 2014, 03:32:35 pm »
It was red. I just watched it.

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« Reply #61 on: June 01, 2014, 03:57:45 pm »
Seems to me the Klingons are more the PH-B type, but the A is red so...

But it fired too fast to be a two turn weapon.

SFB/SFC just put three to four PH-1's on the nose. Same emitter, multiple shots.

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« Reply #62 on: June 01, 2014, 05:08:50 pm »
All the X2 weapons were designed by Taldren... and it shows. They have no counterparts in SFB or Trek.

I say that the Klingons are more the PH-B type because they aren't interested in jamming your systems, but a weapon that does triple damage on bare hull would definitely interest them. Plus it's short range, just like they like it.

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« Reply #63 on: June 05, 2014, 10:01:25 am »
Things we know about the Breen (so far):

They use disruptors.

Their homeworld is a frozen wasteland.

They have no blood.

Romulans have a saying about them, "Never turn your back on a Breen."


You have the embryo of a culture and philosophy there.

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« Reply #64 on: June 05, 2014, 01:05:32 pm »
Is that all we know lmfao

Oh come on, it's obvious that the Breen home planet is the ice world Hoth and that the Breen are Wampas as it can be seen clearly in (the original) Empire Strikes Back when Luke cuts off its arm that they have no blood. You wouldn't turn your back on a Wampa would you? And if you gave a Wampa a disruptor I'm sure he'd like it.  ;D


Does an Ambassador Class have aft torpedoes. Never see it on the models?

The design does suggest it was a proto-design for a Galaxy so it would seem likely. The launch tube would be in the same area.

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« Reply #65 on: June 05, 2014, 02:17:04 pm »
Hmm did the constitution ever have aft torpedoes.

Only when moving in reverse.

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« Reply #66 on: June 05, 2014, 05:26:58 pm »
Hmm did the constitution ever have aft torpedoes.

This is one of those things I hate about "canon."  The Defiant, from TOS episode The Tholian Web, emerged into the little "Alternate Universe" group of episodes in "Enterprise" and fell under the command of Evil Archer.  Evil Archer had aft torpedoes at his disposal.
Cannon (can' nun) n.  An istrument used to rectify national boundries.  Ambrois Bierce, The Devil's Dictionary

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« Reply #67 on: June 05, 2014, 05:59:53 pm »
I'd forgotten about that. They seem to eminate from right above the shuttle bay where the running light is. That actually helps the Ambassador theory as they look like a cross between a Constitution and a Galaxy. In fact it looks to me like the Ambassador was supposed to be the new Constitution class.

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« Reply #68 on: June 05, 2014, 06:59:55 pm »
Hmm did the constitution ever have aft torpedoes.


This is one of those things I hate about "canon."  The Defiant, from TOS episode The Tholian Web, emerged into the little "Alternate Universe" group of episodes in "Enterprise" and fell under the command of Evil Archer.  Evil Archer had aft torpedoes at his disposal.

you mean this one I just love this video.


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Re: Canon Clarification
« Reply #69 on: June 05, 2014, 07:02:01 pm »
Is that all we know lmfao

Corb,
Does an Ambassador Class have aft torpedoes. Never see it on the models?

Adam
I would think so if the Excelsior does.

What book is that map in?

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Re: Canon Clarification
« Reply #70 on: June 08, 2014, 07:28:21 pm »
I believe they their rear torps.

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« Reply #71 on: June 10, 2014, 02:47:43 pm »
Only time was Dreadnought in VOY(torpedoes)...


They mentioned in that ep that the Quantums would have to be reconfigured to fire from Fed launchers, so our theory about different colors because of different launcher systems holds up.

The bomb also used something that looked like an ESG against those alien fighters.

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« Reply #72 on: June 10, 2014, 03:13:57 pm »
I looked again at the shots of the Cardassian fleet turning on the Dominion at the end. I think that the yellow beam coming from the red square at the front is supposed to be a disruptor beam. Unfortunately, they look just like the phasers coming from other parts of their ships; unless those are disruptors too.

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« Reply #73 on: June 10, 2014, 04:21:44 pm »
No real implication there; Jellico said for them to jettison their phaser coils. The Cardassian complaining that that would leave them defenseless I chalk up to their usual hyperbole.

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Re: Canon Clarification
« Reply #74 on: June 10, 2014, 05:49:32 pm »
The Dominion use Tetryons as they are white.It is probably the reason they can get thru your shields.

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« Reply #75 on: June 10, 2014, 09:10:15 pm »
The Dominion use Tetryons as they are white.It is probably the reason they can get thru your shields.

Dominion weapons only ignored shields until the Feds captured that downed ship. After that their shields (and everyone else they shared with) worked fine.

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« Reply #76 on: June 12, 2014, 08:56:05 pm »
The Dominion use Tetryons as they are white.It is probably the reason they can get thru your shields.


Dominion weapons only ignored shields until the Feds captured that downed ship. After that their shields (and everyone else they shared with) worked fine.

Sorry they had Polorons which drains energy from shields and there no counter.


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« Reply #77 on: June 12, 2014, 09:38:51 pm »
The Dominion use Tetryons as they are white.It is probably the reason they can get thru your shields.

Dominion weapons only ignored shields until the Feds captured that downed ship. After that their shields (and everyone else they shared with) worked fine.
Sorry they had Polorons which drains energy from shields and there no counter.


That clip is from their first encounter. See the episode "The Ship" and then check out the episode "Call To Arms" from 32:30. They adapted.