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Woot! @ stargate fans
« on: May 29, 2014, 10:44:15 pm »
http://geektyrant.com/news/new-stargate-trilogy-coming-from-warner-bros-and-mgm

Warner Bros. and MGM are set to develop a new trilogy based on the 1994 sci-fi adventure film Stargate. The co-writer and director of the original film, Roland Emmerich, will direct the new trilogy, and his long time producing partner Dean Devlin will obviously produce.

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« Reply #1 on: May 30, 2014, 07:01:02 am »
Cool.  Also glad they didn't try doing a prequel a la Star Wars...
 

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« Reply #2 on: May 30, 2014, 01:50:52 pm »
No place for a prequel in the Stargate universe, unless it doesn't involve Earth.

I'm skeptical, even though the original writer is doing the film, reboots have not gone over well.  I wonder if there's going to be a nod to series, or if it's just a reboot of the movie?  Are we going to see Carter and Teal'c, or just O'Neill and Jackson?  How about Hammond or Frasier?
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« Reply #3 on: May 30, 2014, 02:01:00 pm »
The movie Stargate was ok.  The TV series, SG-1 rocked.  They rode that story-line beyond the end-point, but it was still good to the very end.  I'm one of those people you piss-off when you start talking about ancient aliens, so I wasn't exactly roped-in with the premise.  The writing, acting, even the picture quality got me.  Even as I joked about every alien planet looking like Western Canada, that show remained interesting and beautiful.  Hopefully, I'll be able to saw the same thing about the upcoming films.  It appears that it's going to be some time before the ST franchise is entrusted to somebody who has the slightest respect for the audience.
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« Reply #4 on: May 30, 2014, 06:16:17 pm »
No place for a prequel in the Stargate universe, unless it doesn't involve Earth.

I know a way it could be done without violating what was shown on the show.  It wouldn't use the Stargate though.
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« Reply #5 on: May 30, 2014, 10:18:46 pm »
No place for a prequel in the Stargate universe, unless it doesn't involve Earth.

Actually, you could have a prequel, but it would have to take place around 3000 BCE.
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« Reply #6 on: May 31, 2014, 07:12:00 am »
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« Reply #7 on: June 05, 2014, 07:08:34 pm »
We will be ready for as all series were filmed up here like BSG.

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« Reply #8 on: June 06, 2014, 01:26:53 am »
We will be ready for as all series were filmed up here like BSG.

The guy who did BSG did a Stargate series, and it wasn't good.  An escape from reality just doesn't work when it's more depressing than your real life.
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« Reply #9 on: June 06, 2014, 03:13:12 pm »
We will be ready for as all series were filmed up here like BSG.


The guy who did BSG did a Stargate series, and it wasn't good.  An escape from reality just doesn't work when it's more depressing than your real life.

I actually enjoyed BSG lastest one and I did like the Stargate Universe and it could of been the same guy as BSG is Glen A Larson and I know that Stargate isn't.

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I like the new BSG it gave the series some depth instead of arrive on Earth in Flying Motorcycles.

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« Reply #10 on: June 06, 2014, 04:14:24 pm »

I like the new BSG it gave the series some depth instead of arrive on Earth in Flying Motorcycles.

The original BSG was fine for 13 yr. olds, and the new BSG was all too deep and realistic.  It not only presented a situation where utter desperation becomes utter hopelessness.  After watching an episode, the emotion sticks with you.  It is not logical to invite despair into your life.
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« Reply #11 on: June 08, 2014, 02:43:17 pm »

I like the new BSG it gave the series some depth instead of arrive on Earth in Flying Motorcycles.

The original BSG was fine for 13 yr. olds, and the new BSG was all too deep and realistic.  It not only presented a situation where utter desperation becomes utter hopelessness.  After watching an episode, the emotion sticks with you.  It is not logical to invite despair into your life.

One of the reasons i did not watch BSG and I didn't enjoy Stargate Universe - well at least not until half way through the 2nd season.  At that point I think they realized that people were not enjoying the constant infighting and gave them an 'external' threat to deal with.
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« Reply #12 on: June 08, 2014, 07:17:27 pm »

I like the new BSG it gave the series some depth instead of arrive on Earth in Flying Motorcycles.

The original BSG was fine for 13 yr. olds, and the new BSG was all too deep and realistic.  It not only presented a situation where utter desperation becomes utter hopelessness.  After watching an episode, the emotion sticks with you.  It is not logical to invite despair into your life.
I don't look at it that way I look at as hope.There are far more shows on about despair.What I was saying tho is that it is more in depth than the original sure it was fine.You just don't land on new Planet and go around flying motorcycles up the Pacific Coast Hwy.

@Tus the external threat on BSG Happened right at the start.

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« Reply #13 on: June 09, 2014, 06:04:11 am »

I like the new BSG it gave the series some depth instead of arrive on Earth in Flying Motorcycles.

The original BSG was fine for 13 yr. olds, and the new BSG was all too deep and realistic.  It not only presented a situation where utter desperation becomes utter hopelessness.  After watching an episode, the emotion sticks with you.  It is not logical to invite despair into your life.
I don't look at it that way I look at as hope.There are far more shows on about despair.What I was saying tho is that it is more in depth than the original sure it was fine.You just don't land on new Planet and go around flying motorcycles up the Pacific Coast Hwy.

@Tus the external threat on BSG Happened right at the start.

Tus was referring to SGU, not BSG.  How you can find how in the new BSG is completely beyond me.  Every episode ended up making me feel sick.  An example:

I can't remember her name, but she took her half-Cylon child to the airlock.  Just after she unlocked the outer door, a full Cyclon woman takes her child and clubs her.  As the mother recovers, she's still in the air-lock, and the Cylon is on the other side of the glass at the controls.  The mother looks the Cylon in the eye, just before the Cylon opens the outer door, flushing her into space.

If that were some isolated incident in the show, it would have been hard on an audience, but theme of the show was pain, constant, unrelenting pain.  I stopped watching the show, and came back to watch Apollo's girlfriend blow her own head off.  There is nothing more hopeless than watching beautiful young women die.

As an experiment in TV drama, I can respect it.  The BSG universe had little hope from its conception.  One could imagine the creators making a show about despair, simply to avoid insulting the audience with happy endings in a show about a near perfect genocide of the human race. 

That formula didn't work for SGU.  The basic story line and the alien technology is simply too fanciful for deep, grim stories.  Second, the constant infighting was just not realistic.  The only reason anybody watched that show was that they were completely desperate to see some sci-fi.
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« Reply #14 on: June 09, 2014, 03:49:48 pm »
.What I was saying tho is that it is more in depth than the original sure it was fine.You just don't land on new Planet and go around flying motorcycles up the Pacific Coast Hwy.

You're confusing the original BSG with its crappy spinoff I think.
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« Reply #15 on: June 09, 2014, 06:12:48 pm »
The flying motorcycles came from a made for TV movie that was produced some time after the original BSG was canceled.  I think it was meant to bring a happy ending to the series by having the Colonials find Earth.  It was kind of like Serenity, except that the Firefly series enjoyed excellence in every aspect.  Firefly...  Excuse me while I get on Netflix.
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« Reply #16 on: June 09, 2014, 06:21:35 pm »
Yes, Conquest of the Earth, which was created by editing together "Galactica 1980" episodes 1, 2, 3, 7 & 8...aka BSG's crappy spinoff.
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« Reply #17 on: June 09, 2014, 08:35:37 pm »
Yes, Conquest of the Earth, which was created by editing together "Galactica 1980" episodes 1, 2, 3, 7 & 8...aka BSG's crappy spinoff.

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« Reply #18 on: June 10, 2014, 05:57:36 pm »

I like the new BSG it gave the series some depth instead of arrive on Earth in Flying Motorcycles.


The original BSG was fine for 13 yr. olds, and the new BSG was all too deep and realistic.  It not only presented a situation where utter desperation becomes utter hopelessness.  After watching an episode, the emotion sticks with you.  It is not logical to invite despair into your life.

I don't look at it that way I look at as hope.There are far more shows on about despair.What I was saying tho is that it is more in depth than the original sure it was fine.You just don't land on new Planet and go around flying motorcycles up the Pacific Coast Hwy.

@Tus the external threat on BSG Happened right at the start.


Tus was referring to SGU, not BSG.  How you can find how in the new BSG is completely beyond me.  Every episode ended up making me feel sick.  An example:

I can't remember her name, but she took her half-Cylon child to the airlock.  Just after she unlocked the outer door, a full Cyclon woman takes her child and clubs her.  As the mother recovers, she's still in the air-lock, and the Cylon is on the other side of the glass at the controls.  The mother looks the Cylon in the eye, just before the Cylon opens the outer door, flushing her into space.

If that were some isolated incident in the show, it would have been hard on an audience, but theme of the show was pain, constant, unrelenting pain.  I stopped watching the show, and came back to watch Apollo's girlfriend blow her own head off.  There is nothing more hopeless than watching beautiful young women die.

As an experiment in TV drama, I can respect it.  The BSG universe had little hope from its conception.  One could imagine the creators making a show about despair, simply to avoid insulting the audience with happy endings in a show about a near perfect genocide of the human race. 

That formula didn't work for SGU.  The basic story line and the alien technology is simply too fanciful for deep, grim stories.  Second, the constant infighting was just not realistic.  The only reason anybody watched that show was that they were completely desperate to see some sci-fi.


They didn't throw hybrid cylon baby out of an airlock it was stillborn baby.The hybrid was given to the mother who lost her stillborn.It was Boomers hybrid.What would you do if say the destroyed your world think of the Twin Towers on how every American felt towards Muslims/Mid Eastners.It made the humans angry that every clony world was destroyed by the cylons after they broke the armistice.

SGU never finished it contract as it was cancelled.

@Vipre I would say it is a lot better than the original as it has more depth to it.The acting is far superior and a better production on a whole.what is the flying motorcycles which no one on earth has ever seen as they in Star Trek that is breaking the almighty Prime Directive. 

Yeah right and who in California wears a helmet flying away from a bunch of Harley riders.Btw cloaking their Vipers??


This is probably why Glen Made the new version to give it more depth and reality.
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« Reply #19 on: June 11, 2014, 12:27:59 am »
Cally Henderson Tyrol is the name of the character that got flushed out the air-lock.  I wasn't writing about Boomer.

Nobody is denying that the original cast from the original BSG were in a spin-off from the original BSG, riding flying motorcycles.  Why you have to keep reminding us of it could only be an act of sadism worthy of the creators of the new BSG.
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« Reply #20 on: June 11, 2014, 07:34:14 pm »

I like the new BSG it gave the series some depth instead of arrive on Earth in Flying Motorcycles.

The original BSG was fine for 13 yr. olds, and the new BSG was all too deep and realistic.  It not only presented a situation where utter desperation becomes utter hopelessness.  After watching an episode, the emotion sticks with you.  It is not logical to invite despair into your life.
I don't look at it that way I look at as hope.There are far more shows on about despair.What I was saying tho is that it is more in depth than the original sure it was fine.You just don't land on new Planet and go around flying motorcycles up the Pacific Coast Hwy.

@Tus the external threat on BSG Happened right at the start.

Tus was referring to SGU, not BSG.  How you can find how in the new BSG is completely beyond me.  Every episode ended up making me feel sick.  An example:

I can't remember her name, but she took her half-Cylon child to the airlock.  Just after she unlocked the outer door, a full Cyclon woman takes her child and clubs her.  As the mother recovers, she's still in the air-lock, and the Cylon is on the other side of the glass at the controls.  The mother looks the Cylon in the eye, just before the Cylon opens the outer door, flushing her into space.


The scene they're referring to was the murder of Callie Tyrol by I think her name was Tory.  Also, Callie's baby was not a hybrid.  It was later revealed that she was a slut who despite being married had gotten it on with hotdog.

Also, Boomer didn't have a baby.  The baby Hera was Athena's daughter.  The Colonial's worst enemy Laura Rosilin, faked the child's stillbirth, and gave her to someone else to raise.

The flying motorcycles were from Galacica 1980.  The original 1978 BSG had a budget of $1,000,000 per episode.  This is the same as Star Trek TNG, and even greater when you take inflation into account.  However, the big three networks don't like spending alot on programming, and the show was cancelled after a season.  However, it was popular, so they decided to do a spinoff in 1980.  To save money, the new series was planet based.  It was universally panned.

The re-imagined BSG was the brainchild of Ron D. Moore, a veteran Star Trek writer who had worked on TNG, DS9 and Voyager, and co-wrote Star Trek First Contact.
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« Reply #21 on: June 11, 2014, 08:17:29 pm »

The re-imagined BSG was the brainchild of Ron D. Moore, a veteran Star Trek writer who had worked on TNG, DS9 and Voyager, and co-wrote Star Trek First Contact.

ST must have suppressed the dark nature of his imagination.  I wonder how the creators of SGU got the sense that that was the way to go.
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« Reply #22 on: June 11, 2014, 09:36:05 pm »

The re-imagined BSG was the brainchild of Ron D. Moore, a veteran Star Trek writer who had worked on TNG, DS9 and Voyager, and co-wrote Star Trek First Contact.

ST must have suppressed the dark nature of his imagination.  I wonder how the creators of SGU got the sense that that was the way to go.

DS9 could get pretty dark at times, and First Contact wasn't the fluffiest of films.

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« Reply #23 on: June 11, 2014, 09:46:34 pm »
Dark just isn't the nature of ST, so you have to work really hard to insert it.  The darkest ST was Nemisis, and it sucked.
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« Reply #24 on: June 11, 2014, 09:50:51 pm »
The darkest Star Trek was "In A Mirror Darkly" and it ruled.

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« Reply #25 on: June 11, 2014, 11:26:35 pm »
I didn't care for it that much.  Then, I really soured on that series after the 1st season.
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« Reply #26 on: June 11, 2014, 11:42:25 pm »
That and the story with the Terran xenophobes were the shining lights in an otherwise dull series. But then again, Trek has always had bits of genius nestled in a mire of crap. Remember that horrible story in the first season of TNG where Wesley was being held for capital punishment for falling into a hedge or some stupid thing? The sequence with the alien probe penetrating the ship and addressing Picard was some of the best Trek ever, but the rest of the story...  ::)

Unfortunately, I've never been a fan of SG. It just never caught my attention.

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« Reply #27 on: June 12, 2014, 01:11:49 am »
That and the story with the Terran xenophobes were the shining lights in an otherwise dull series. But then again, Trek has always had bits of genius nestled in a mire of crap. Remember that horrible story in the first season of TNG where Wesley was being held for capital punishment for falling into a hedge or some stupid thing? The sequence with the alien probe penetrating the ship and addressing Picard was some of the best Trek ever, but the rest of the story...  ::)

Unfortunately, I've never been a fan of SG. It just never caught my attention.

You're absolutely right about ST having tid bits of genius nestled in a mire of crap.  Wesley almost destroyed that series single-handedly.  Why the studio would put a child in that position I will never know.  The actor is probably going to have to dodge rotten vegetables where ever he goes for the rest of his life.  Now, I'm going to have to find that episode and watch it again, just to find out what you're talking about.

As far as SG goes, the premise was stupid.  As far as SG1 goes, the actors were really good and the writing utterly fantastic.  With that combination, they could go off in all sorts of weird directions and explore a multitude of fantastic theater.  They managed to extend that series a lot longer than I would have thought possible while maintaining my interest.  From there, they went to SG Atlantis, and I just don't have any need for space vampires, and from there, they went on to SGU, which was pointless, dull, and depressing.  The end of SG1 should have been the end of that franchise.  Well, except for a couple movies, I guess.
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« Reply #28 on: June 12, 2014, 10:26:15 am »

You're absolutely right about ST having tid bits of genius nestled in a mire of crap.  Wesley almost destroyed that series single-handedly.  Why the studio would put a child in that position I will never know.


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« Reply #29 on: June 12, 2014, 11:00:21 am »
Now, I'm going to have to find that episode and watch it again, just to find out what you're talking about.


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« Reply #30 on: June 12, 2014, 01:43:46 pm »
It's been 33 years.  I just remember feeling sick every time Wesley came into the frame.
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« Reply #31 on: June 12, 2014, 02:51:37 pm »
He's not in that scene. You'll do fine.

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« Reply #32 on: June 12, 2014, 03:23:17 pm »
The white sphere was kinda cool.  It's actually reminiscent of rock concert LASER effects of the time.  Man, I hated the rest of that episode.
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« Reply #33 on: June 12, 2014, 04:06:37 pm »
The actor is probably going to have to dodge rotten vegetables where ever he goes for the rest of his life.

Not one for internet current events eh. I doubt he's worried about vegetables.
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« Reply #34 on: June 12, 2014, 04:14:22 pm »
Yeah, between The Big Bang Theory and his new show, he's doing OK.

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« Reply #35 on: June 12, 2014, 04:26:39 pm »
The actor is probably going to have to dodge rotten vegetables where ever he goes for the rest of his life.

Not one for internet current events eh. I doubt he's worried about vegetables.

I guess not.  I'm still for throwing rotten vegetables at him.
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« Reply #36 on: June 12, 2014, 08:25:26 pm »

I like the new BSG it gave the series some depth instead of arrive on Earth in Flying Motorcycles.

The original BSG was fine for 13 yr. olds, and the new BSG was all too deep and realistic.  It not only presented a situation where utter desperation becomes utter hopelessness.  After watching an episode, the emotion sticks with you.  It is not logical to invite despair into your life.
I don't look at it that way I look at as hope.There are far more shows on about despair.What I was saying tho is that it is more in depth than the original sure it was fine.You just don't land on new Planet and go around flying motorcycles up the Pacific Coast Hwy.

@Tus the external threat on BSG Happened right at the start.

Tus was referring to SGU, not BSG.  How you can find how in the new BSG is completely beyond me.  Every episode ended up making me feel sick.  An example:

I can't remember her name, but she took her half-Cylon child to the airlock.  Just after she unlocked the outer door, a full Cyclon woman takes her child and clubs her.  As the mother recovers, she's still in the air-lock, and the Cylon is on the other side of the glass at the controls.  The mother looks the Cylon in the eye, just before the Cylon opens the outer door, flushing her into space.


The scene they're referring to was the murder of Callie Tyrol by I think her name was Tory.  Also, Callie's baby was not a hybrid.  It was later revealed that she was a slut who despite being married had gotten it on with hotdog.

Also, Boomer didn't have a baby.  The baby Hera was Athena's daughter.  The Colonial's worst enemy Laura Rosilin, faked the child's stillbirth, and gave her to someone else to raise.

That was different episode of Callie's and Boomer did have baby.

The original creator  is Glen A Larson not Moore.

I enjoyed DS9 out all of the TNG era Sisko is a lot like Kirk.When it comes to ST Atlantis it was a success when it came to the ratings.

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« Reply #37 on: June 12, 2014, 09:39:56 pm »

I like the new BSG it gave the series some depth instead of arrive on Earth in Flying Motorcycles.

The original BSG was fine for 13 yr. olds, and the new BSG was all too deep and realistic.  It not only presented a situation where utter desperation becomes utter hopelessness.  After watching an episode, the emotion sticks with you.  It is not logical to invite despair into your life.
I don't look at it that way I look at as hope.There are far more shows on about despair.What I was saying tho is that it is more in depth than the original sure it was fine.You just don't land on new Planet and go around flying motorcycles up the Pacific Coast Hwy.

@Tus the external threat on BSG Happened right at the start.

Tus was referring to SGU, not BSG.  How you can find how in the new BSG is completely beyond me.  Every episode ended up making me feel sick.  An example:

I can't remember her name, but she took her half-Cylon child to the airlock.  Just after she unlocked the outer door, a full Cyclon woman takes her child and clubs her.  As the mother recovers, she's still in the air-lock, and the Cylon is on the other side of the glass at the controls.  The mother looks the Cylon in the eye, just before the Cylon opens the outer door, flushing her into space.


The scene they're referring to was the murder of Callie Tyrol by I think her name was Tory.  Also, Callie's baby was not a hybrid.  It was later revealed that she was a slut who despite being married had gotten it on with hotdog.

Also, Boomer didn't have a baby.  The baby Hera was Athena's daughter.  The Colonial's worst enemy Laura Rosilin, faked the child's stillbirth, and gave her to someone else to raise.

That was different episode of Callie's and Boomer did have baby.

The original creator  is Glen A Larson not Moore.

I enjoyed DS9 out all of the TNG era Sisko is a lot like Kirk.When it comes to ST Atlantis it was a success when it came to the ratings.

The scene they were talking about was where Callie was thrown out of the airlock.

Larson created the original.  He had nothing to do with the re-imagined BSG.

Also, Boomer did not have a baby.  Boomer and Athena were the same model Cylon played by the same actress.  Athena married Karl "Helo" Agathon, and gave birth to Hera.  Boomer shot Adama, and was "killed" by Callie.

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Re: Woot! @ stargate fans
« Reply #38 on: June 12, 2014, 09:42:48 pm »
Cripes! What a soap opera! I'm glad I never watched it!  :P ;D

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« Reply #39 on: June 12, 2014, 10:21:37 pm »
Cripes! What a soap opera! I'm glad I never watched it!  :P ;D

Soap operas do not leave you feeling sick like this series did. :(
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« Reply #40 on: June 13, 2014, 05:14:08 pm »

I like the new BSG it gave the series some depth instead of arrive on Earth in Flying Motorcycles.

The original BSG was fine for 13 yr. olds, and the new BSG was all too deep and realistic.  It not only presented a situation where utter desperation becomes utter hopelessness.  After watching an episode, the emotion sticks with you.  It is not logical to invite despair into your life.
I don't look at it that way I look at as hope.There are far more shows on about despair.What I was saying tho is that it is more in depth than the original sure it was fine.You just don't land on new Planet and go around flying motorcycles up the Pacific Coast Hwy.

@Tus the external threat on BSG Happened right at the start.

Tus was referring to SGU, not BSG.  How you can find how in the new BSG is completely beyond me.  Every episode ended up making me feel sick.  An example:

I can't remember her name, but she took her half-Cylon child to the airlock.  Just after she unlocked the outer door, a full Cyclon woman takes her child and clubs her.  As the mother recovers, she's still in the air-lock, and the Cylon is on the other side of the glass at the controls.  The mother looks the Cylon in the eye, just before the Cylon opens the outer door, flushing her into space.


The scene they're referring to was the murder of Callie Tyrol by I think her name was Tory.  Also, Callie's baby was not a hybrid.  It was later revealed that she was a slut who despite being married had gotten it on with hotdog.

Also, Boomer didn't have a baby.  The baby Hera was Athena's daughter.  The Colonial's worst enemy Laura Rosilin, faked the child's stillbirth, and gave her to someone else to raise.

That was different episode of Callie's and Boomer did have baby.

The original creator  is Glen A Larson not Moore.

I enjoyed DS9 out all of the TNG era Sisko is a lot like Kirk.When it comes to ST Atlantis it was a success when it came to the ratings.

The scene they were talking about was where Callie was thrown out of the airlock.

Larson created the original.  He had nothing to do with the re-imagined BSG.

Also, Boomer did not have a baby.  Boomer and Athena were the same model Cylon played by the same actress.  Athena married Karl "Helo" Agathon, and gave birth to Hera.  Boomer shot Adama, and was "killed" by Callie.
What is the name of the episode and iirc it was cylons who thru her out of an airlock?Glen A Larson was very much involved.Boomer did have baby rewatch it over again as I just did.

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Re: Woot! @ stargate fans
« Reply #41 on: June 13, 2014, 09:35:37 pm »

I like the new BSG it gave the series some depth instead of arrive on Earth in Flying Motorcycles.

The original BSG was fine for 13 yr. olds, and the new BSG was all too deep and realistic.  It not only presented a situation where utter desperation becomes utter hopelessness.  After watching an episode, the emotion sticks with you.  It is not logical to invite despair into your life.
I don't look at it that way I look at as hope.There are far more shows on about despair.What I was saying tho is that it is more in depth than the original sure it was fine.You just don't land on new Planet and go around flying motorcycles up the Pacific Coast Hwy.

@Tus the external threat on BSG Happened right at the start.

Tus was referring to SGU, not BSG.  How you can find how in the new BSG is completely beyond me.  Every episode ended up making me feel sick.  An example:

I can't remember her name, but she took her half-Cylon child to the airlock.  Just after she unlocked the outer door, a full Cyclon woman takes her child and clubs her.  As the mother recovers, she's still in the air-lock, and the Cylon is on the other side of the glass at the controls.  The mother looks the Cylon in the eye, just before the Cylon opens the outer door, flushing her into space.


The scene they're referring to was the murder of Callie Tyrol by I think her name was Tory.  Also, Callie's baby was not a hybrid.  It was later revealed that she was a slut who despite being married had gotten it on with hotdog.

Also, Boomer didn't have a baby.  The baby Hera was Athena's daughter.  The Colonial's worst enemy Laura Rosilin, faked the child's stillbirth, and gave her to someone else to raise.

That was different episode of Callie's and Boomer did have baby.

The original creator  is Glen A Larson not Moore.

I enjoyed DS9 out all of the TNG era Sisko is a lot like Kirk.When it comes to ST Atlantis it was a success when it came to the ratings.

The scene they were talking about was where Callie was thrown out of the airlock.

Larson created the original.  He had nothing to do with the re-imagined BSG.

Also, Boomer did not have a baby.  Boomer and Athena were the same model Cylon played by the same actress.  Athena married Karl "Helo" Agathon, and gave birth to Hera.  Boomer shot Adama, and was "killed" by Callie.
What is the name of the episode and iirc it was cylons who thru her out of an airlock?Glen A Larson was very much involved.Boomer did have baby rewatch it over again as I just did.
I think she got thrown out in season 4.  The Cylon's name was Tory something.

Also, Glen Larson had nothing to do with the re-imagined series.  It was all Ron Moore and David Elick.  He was credited as a consulting producer, but he was never consulted.

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« Reply #42 on: June 13, 2014, 09:39:12 pm »
Boomer kidnapped Athena's baby Hera, that's where you're likely getting the "Boomer baby" from Age. She also had a fantasy projection in which she had an imaginary daughter.

"The Ties That Bind" the fifth episode in the fourth season is when Cally bites it at Tory's hand.
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« Reply #43 on: June 14, 2014, 03:36:24 pm »
In any case, watching Cally get blown out the air-lock was the most depressing thing I've ever seen on television.  They made it almost as traumatic as watching a real girl die.
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« Reply #44 on: June 14, 2014, 03:40:06 pm »
In any case, watching Cally get blown out the air-lock was the most depressing thing I've ever seen on television.  They made it almost as traumatic as watching a real girl die.

Worse than the scene in the miniseries where Caprica Six snapped a baby's neck?

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« Reply #45 on: June 14, 2014, 05:42:51 pm »

I like the new BSG it gave the series some depth instead of arrive on Earth in Flying Motorcycles.


The original BSG was fine for 13 yr. olds, and the new BSG was all too deep and realistic.  It not only presented a situation where utter desperation becomes utter hopelessness.  After watching an episode, the emotion sticks with you.  It is not logical to invite despair into your life.

I don't look at it that way I look at as hope.There are far more shows on about despair.What I was saying tho is that it is more in depth than the original sure it was fine.You just don't land on new Planet and go around flying motorcycles up the Pacific Coast Hwy.

@Tus the external threat on BSG Happened right at the start.


Tus was referring to SGU, not BSG.  How you can find how in the new BSG is completely beyond me.  Every episode ended up making me feel sick.  An example:

I can't remember her name, but she took her half-Cylon child to the airlock.  Just after she unlocked the outer door, a full Cyclon woman takes her child and clubs her.  As the mother recovers, she's still in the air-lock, and the Cylon is on the other side of the glass at the controls.  The mother looks the Cylon in the eye, just before the Cylon opens the outer door, flushing her into space.




The scene they're referring to was the murder of Callie Tyrol by I think her name was Tory.  Also, Callie's baby was not a hybrid.  It was later revealed that she was a slut who despite being married had gotten it on with hotdog.

Also, Boomer didn't have a baby.  The baby Hera was Athena's daughter.  The Colonial's worst enemy Laura Rosilin, faked the child's stillbirth, and gave her to someone else to raise.

That was different episode of Callie's and Boomer did have baby.

The original creator  is Glen A Larson not Moore.

I enjoyed DS9 out all of the TNG era Sisko is a lot like Kirk.When it comes to ST Atlantis it was a success when it came to the ratings.


The scene they were talking about was where Callie was thrown out of the airlock.

Larson created the original.  He had nothing to do with the re-imagined BSG.

Also, Boomer did not have a baby.  Boomer and Athena were the same model Cylon played by the same actress.  Athena married Karl "Helo" Agathon, and gave birth to Hera.  Boomer shot Adama, and was "killed" by Callie.

What is the name of the episode and iirc it was cylons who thru her out of an airlock?Glen A Larson was very much involved.Boomer did have baby rewatch it over again as I just did.

I think she got thrown out in season 4.  The Cylon's name was Tory something.

Also, Glen Larson had nothing to do with the re-imagined series.  It was all Ron Moore and David Elick.  He was credited as a consulting producer, but he was never consulted.

It was to Glen A Larson.

Boomer did not kidnap the baby.It shows here pregnant here and looking at her baby in the incubator.
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« Reply #46 on: June 14, 2014, 08:59:49 pm »
That's Athena. Easy way to tell them apart, Helo is usually next to her...as he is when she's looking at the baby 45sec-50sec mark.
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« Reply #47 on: June 15, 2014, 04:31:53 am »

It was to Glen A Larson.



No, it wasn't, and I challenge you to find a source that says otherwise.


Boomer did not kidnap the baby.It shows here pregnant here and looking at her baby in the incubator.http://youtu.be/8hR2t8ghAoI


For the last time, Boomer and Athena were physically identical.  They're both number 8 model cylons.  Both are played by Grace Park.  Athena eventually took over Boomer's position in the crew.

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« Reply #48 on: July 17, 2014, 06:15:08 pm »

It was to Glen A Larson.



No, it wasn't, and I challenge you to find a source that says otherwise.


Boomer did not kidnap the baby.It shows here pregnant here and looking at her baby in the incubator.http://youtu.be/8hR2t8ghAoI


For the last time, Boomer and Athena were physically identical.  They're both number 8 model cylons.  Both are played by Grace Park.  Athena eventually took over Boomer's position in the crew.

It is in the credit Larsons name and those tow do look different give me episode name.Athena is Guies girlfriend who is blonde.Isn't this Athena
http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/photos/uncategorized/2009/03/21/sixbaltar5_jfdnxhnc.jpg

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« Reply #49 on: July 17, 2014, 07:41:40 pm »

It is in the credit Larsons name


Larson is credited as a consulting producer, although he was never consulted.  He's also mentioned in the credits as the show is based on a teleplay created by Glen Larson, but that's just referring to the original series.

those tow do look different give me episode name.Athena is Guies girlfriend who is blonde.Isn't this Athena
http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/photos/uncategorized/2009/03/21/sixbaltar5_jfdnxhnc.jpg


That's not Athena.  That's Baltar's mental version of Caprica Six.  Athena is one of two model eight cylons to use the name Sharon Valeri.  She met up with Karl "Helo" Agathon while he was on the run on Caprica.  Posing as Boomer who Helo thought was a human, she seduced him and began a relationship with him.  She returned with him to Galactica and chose humanity over the cylons.  Eventually, she received a commission, but decided to use a different callsign to distinguish herself from Boomer, a sleeper agent who had conducted various acts of sabotage culminating in her assassination attempt on Commander Adama.  On Racetrack's recommendation, she chose Athena.
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« Reply #50 on: July 18, 2014, 01:55:51 pm »
Ok.I will except what you said in the second part but Glen did do as much as Moore.

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0407362/fullcredits?ref_=tt_ov_st_sm

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« Reply #51 on: July 19, 2014, 10:21:04 am »
In the link you posted, he's only credited as "consulting producer".