Topic: TNG Andor-Class Torpedo Cruiser (Read 11056 times)

Azel · « **on:** August 26, 2003, 02:27:03 pm »

Ok... over the last few days the Andor-Class Missile/Torpedo Cruiser has been making alot of noise in the Forums

So I'd thought I would Take a crack at putting my 2 cents in...so I decided to try a TNG version of this ship

This is what I have so far,\
Hope you enjoy

Top view

This is a side view, but without the nacelle and is showing the interior side of the cattamarang style hulll
the bold black lines are the outline of the ship in relation to the cattamarang style hulll:

and the front View

Arachne · « **Reply #1 on:** August 26, 2003, 04:23:01 pm »

Hrmmm. Honestly, I dont like the saucer. It seems too tall from the front and sides. Top view looks ok...

Overall, tho, it's a fine kinda prototype TNG Andor to build on...

Klingon Fanatic · « **Reply #2 on:** August 26, 2003, 04:41:57 pm »

I agree with Arachne; I would prefer a saucer that is not as 'tall'. However, overall, it clearly shows its design lineage. Well done!

KF

Azel · « **Reply #3 on:** August 26, 2003, 05:53:04 pm »

Quote:

Hrmmm. Honestly, I dont like the saucer. It seems too tall from the front and sides. Top view looks ok...

Overall, tho, it's a fine kinda prototype TNG Andor to build on...

LMAO

You have seen the original version right???
http://www.shipschematics.net/startrek/images/federation/cruiser_andor.jpg

I tried to sleek out the design heavily...without losing its identity

It was designed by Andorians(in case anyone didn't know

)
Mine was built by Atolmians...lol
j/k

OH...before I forget...
I need a free modeller(one of you guys who is not doing anything right now)
I would like if at all possible to have this ship modelled please
we can do it as a collaborated effort if you like

Thanks everyone in advance

Marauth · « **Reply #4 on:** August 26, 2003, 06:04:24 pm »

Looks very cool, definetly shows the FASA Andorian design lineage, though I must agree with KF and Arachne about the saucer. Will this one have your hand-drawn textures when done or will it be like the Titan and be a fed grey?

Reverend · « **Reply #6 on:** August 26, 2003, 06:55:10 pm »

it going to be a good one- the original design was a wild one even... can't wait to see it in form... yeah, Atolm!

Reverend · « **Reply #7 on:** August 26, 2003, 06:57:42 pm »

Wonder if this amuses anyone... the more I look at the old one, and this new one in production.... it looks more and more like the Thurfir Class's big brother... ha ha ha ha!!

E_Look · « **Reply #8 on:** August 26, 2003, 08:02:42 pm »

"... Atolmians..."

Ha ha ha, too.

InterMech · « **Reply #9 on:** August 26, 2003, 09:29:40 pm »

I like it, and I have to be honest, I like the tall saucer too! I prefer to think of it as the top of a sphere, in my opinion it makes more sense for space travel. I hope something can come of this design.

Rod O'neal · « **Reply #10 on:** August 26, 2003, 09:40:49 pm »

I like the saucer too. A lot actually. Looking at the side shot in color there's lots of detail. different levels, angles, shapes, etc... I like moving the "sponsons" back off the saucer too, compared to the original. The saucer looks more TNG, that's all.

Mackie · « **Reply #11 on:** August 26, 2003, 11:13:40 pm »

yep, SAUCER GOOD

Smiley · « **Reply #12 on:** August 27, 2003, 03:31:47 am »

I like the TNG deisgn, not overly keen on the colours though. I think that the profile of the saucer fits in well with other TNG era designs, personally I would be tempted to make the saucer less circular and more elliptical, hehe.
Thin saucers are so passe now, can you think of a TNG ship with a thin saucer? Therefore, it stands to reason that a TNG remake such as this should have a saucer just as Azel has envisioned it here.

Captain KoraH · « **Reply #13 on:** August 27, 2003, 12:12:27 pm »

I think the shape of the ship is great, it's the colors I'm not too keen on. The tall saucer is very nie IMO.

If we can get both a "Normal fed textures" version along with any "Atolm" textures, I'll make the ship. Someone elese will have to texture it though. Maybe WZ can spare some time?

Anthony_Scott · « **Reply #14 on:** August 27, 2003, 01:23:21 pm »

Pretty cool so far..although i agree about the saucer but still....better than what i could do!

Semper Fi, Carry On.

Azel · « **Reply #15 on:** August 27, 2003, 03:57:05 pm »

Nice!!!
Some possible Takers to model her
Hey Korah, How about You and Smiley get together and do the ship???
I wanted this to be a joint effort...so please??

And here's another Idea(just throwing it out there for some responses)
How's about the signage of the ship be in Andorian (like that Belknap class
that had Vulcan signage...the Raan was it???)
Also I may have a new version of the nacelle placement...look at this:

instead of side by side...how about vertical...and connected in different points???
Just another Idea

Smiley · « **Reply #16 on:** August 27, 2003, 04:02:50 pm »

Sure, I'd texture it! It would be fun, especially with your detailed drawings to base them on

Azel · « **Reply #17 on:** August 27, 2003, 04:05:48 pm »

WoW!!!
Thanks MAN!!!
Hell if Korah won't tackle her with you...I would be honored sir

Rod O'neal · « **Reply #20 on:** August 27, 2003, 08:06:28 pm »

I wouldn't change the original drawing for the mesh. Of course, it's not my model

I do like the 2 sets of txtrs idea, though. I like the idea of the Andorian (or Atolmian) textures to give it some racial identity. I realise though that some folks want their Feds in "one flavor".

Azel · « **Reply #21 on:** August 28, 2003, 08:07:47 am »

Has no one have any comments to the Andorian signage or the alternate necelle placement???
Oh if anyone sees Capt. Korah...Tell him That we have a go

Azel · « **Reply #22 on:** August 28, 2003, 09:41:19 pm »

Bump for info

Azel · « **Reply #23 on:** August 29, 2003, 09:37:55 pm »

Bump again...lol

Reverend · « **Reply #24 on:** August 30, 2003, 11:49:43 am »

bumpity-bump

Rod O'neal · « **Reply #27 on:** August 31, 2003, 11:27:55 pm »

Any news!?!

Azel · « **Reply #28 on:** September 01, 2003, 03:09:03 pm »

Small update...I did this pic yesterday...sorry I left my refference pics at home(I was at a BBQ while doing this

)
so the details are alittle off...but you'll get the idea:)
Enjoy

Klingon Fanatic · « **Reply #29 on:** September 01, 2003, 03:45:31 pm »

BUMP!

I like the revised version better. I like the new arrangement of the engines. A+ for original thinking!

KF

Marauth · « **Reply #30 on:** September 01, 2003, 04:00:33 pm »

I dunno, I still prefer the left-right arrangement, they're meant to be that way so the ship can steer at warp anyway but I just think it looks better with them side by side.

Azel · « **Reply #31 on:** September 02, 2003, 01:07:58 pm »

Bump for news on the mesh

Captain KoraH · « **Reply #32 on:** September 02, 2003, 03:38:09 pm »

It's going a lot slower than I anticipated, mainly because im not used to meshing Feds, but I have the entire saucer section completed, and working on the secondary hull now.

Azel · « **Reply #33 on:** September 02, 2003, 04:20:09 pm »

Nice

Azel · « **Reply #35 on:** September 03, 2003, 02:42:58 pm »

Bump for update???

Captain KoraH · « **Reply #36 on:** September 03, 2003, 05:22:14 pm »

This model is really turning out to be a pain to mesh, mostly because of all the curved surfaces. I have found that if I make the model exactly like the drawing, it would easily be over 10,000polys! So I'm cutting some corners here and there, and using a few kitbash techniques to try and get the look right without using 1,000's of polys. I think it's going well so far. Finished the secondary hull today.

E_Look · « **Reply #37 on:** September 03, 2003, 07:21:55 pm »

You guys are amazing!

Mackie · « **Reply #39 on:** September 04, 2003, 12:05:28 am »

dont worry about the polycount korah, once youre done with it send it my way and ill cut it down a bit
(a lightwave tool called Qemloss3, very efficient tool)

Captain KoraH · « **Reply #41 on:** September 04, 2003, 09:11:27 am »

Yeah this is turning into a real community project, I like it!

Smiley · « **Reply #42 on:** September 04, 2003, 11:08:43 am »

I can't wait to get my hands on this lovely mesh, and to give her some clothes!!! The poor lassy must be freezing!

Captain KoraH · « **Reply #43 on:** September 04, 2003, 02:24:04 pm »

I thought you guys might like to see a couple WIP's so here ya are:

Azel · « **Reply #44 on:** September 04, 2003, 03:17:34 pm »

Awesome so far man

I would throw a few more slices in that saucer though
Great job !!!

Azel · « **Reply #45 on:** September 05, 2003, 03:05:56 pm »

EL BUMPO!!!

starforce2 · « **Reply #46 on:** September 05, 2003, 08:21:50 pm »

so azel, you got any plans for a matching north hampton?

Azel · « **Reply #47 on:** September 07, 2003, 01:31:32 am »

Northhampton, Thuffir, and Lenthal I hope

Any new news???

Captain KoraH · « **Reply #48 on:** September 07, 2003, 01:53:09 pm »

I took the weekend off from my computer to spend some time with my new wife. We've been married about a month and out of that time I've spent more with my computer than her :P I'll get back to work on Monday though, and hopefully I'll have some new WIP's for you by tuesday featuring the increased poly saucer section and maybe a complete sensor array and warp nacelles.

Rod O'neal · « **Reply #50 on:** September 08, 2003, 07:15:01 pm »

BUMP
So KoraH, I thought that I'd keep this on top so you won't have any trouble finding it

Rod O'neal · « **Reply #51 on:** September 10, 2003, 08:50:52 am »

***BUMP***
It's Wednesday. "Do you know where your Andor is?"

Captain KoraH · « **Reply #52 on:** September 10, 2003, 10:08:44 am »

Well I got to work on it yesterday and spent the entire day on it. After a couple hours though it was apparent that I needed a new mesh. So, I scrapped the hull and started over from scratch. What I ended up with is MUCH better than the first attempt. Much more efficient use of polys, and I even was able to pass the previous extent of construction and add some detail that wasn't there before. So, I'm about the same place I was before, with a bit more detail, but a way better mesh to work with. By the time I was finished though the wife was home and it was too late to post the WIPS! So here they are!

Let the WIP's flow large!

Azel · « **Reply #53 on:** September 10, 2003, 05:50:40 pm »

Looks great man!!! thanks

Captain KoraH · « **Reply #54 on:** September 10, 2003, 06:23:44 pm »

Here are some more WIP's

Azel · « **Reply #55 on:** September 10, 2003, 06:47:31 pm »

Still looking good...I would re size the Triange shape on the dorsal saucer...as it is suppose to be similar the Soveriegn class except the impulse assemblies are now shuttle bays(sorry if I didn't show that clearly...My bad)
Also the main deflector alcove goes all the way up to the saucer(like the sovie) hope that helps

Great Job !!!

Rod O'neal · « **Reply #56 on:** September 11, 2003, 12:48:45 am »

It's looking sweet, man. Thanks for the update. Tell your wife that her sacrafice is for a good cause and we appreciate her too

I'm looking forward to seeing more as you get to it. Thanks again

Reverend · « **Reply #57 on:** September 11, 2003, 11:14:39 am »

Good flow so far, Capt Korah!!

Not that I know ANYTHING about modelling, but that design sure looks like a hard one- we sure appreciate the work on it....:)

Kaenyne · « **Reply #58 on:** September 11, 2003, 11:34:35 am »

Yeah, like everyone else is sayin'!

Even in her early stages I can tell that she's gonna be a real looker!

"I want that ship."

Darth Vader
"The Empire Strikes Back"

Azel · « **Reply #59 on:** September 11, 2003, 07:35:53 pm »

AWESOME

Azel · « **Reply #60 on:** September 13, 2003, 08:08:37 am »

Bump !!!

Azel · « **Reply #61 on:** September 14, 2003, 06:48:31 pm »

Bumps make ATOLM's Head go ouchy...

Azel · « **Reply #62 on:** September 15, 2003, 08:03:46 pm »

any update ???

Azel · « **Reply #63 on:** September 18, 2003, 10:23:50 pm »

anything new at all???
Thanks

starforce2 · « **Reply #64 on:** September 18, 2003, 10:36:59 pm »

*watches tumbleweed blow by*

ActiveX · « **Reply #65 on:** September 18, 2003, 11:51:03 pm »

*Watches a Magic Photon roll by*

Reverend · « **Reply #69 on:** September 19, 2003, 02:29:59 pm »

The Special Magic allows it to roll until it strikes something.... hence nothing here, so it might just roll around here for good...

Reverend · « **Reply #71 on:** September 19, 2003, 03:28:25 pm »

Why, yes, I suppose we could... duck!.. (RROOOLLLL)...phew...

Rod O'neal · « **Reply #72 on:** September 19, 2003, 07:57:42 pm »

"Damn the torpedoes! Full speed ahead!"

I WANT THIS SHIP!!!

So, any updates?

Captain KoraH · « **Reply #73 on:** September 20, 2003, 10:13:01 pm »

No new WIP's yet, but it's coming along nicely. I'm making both the versions that Atolm posted, the one with the necelles side by side and the one with them over and under. It's actually quite nice. I'll have some more WIP's soon.

Rod O'neal · « **Reply #74 on:** September 20, 2003, 11:05:40 pm »

Thanks Capt. KoraH for the update. So, it appears that we're gonna get two models for the price of one

Reverend · « **Reply #76 on:** September 21, 2003, 10:46:48 am »

in this case, maybe Capatain Korah oughta be nicknamed Cap'n Crunch!

Rod O'neal · « **Reply #77 on:** September 22, 2003, 12:38:20 pm »

*Bump*
Just sitting here, wide eyed, wondering, wishing...

Smiley · « **Reply #78 on:** September 23, 2003, 05:29:29 am »

La la la la la.....is it time to begin my texturing yet? heheh

Azel · « **Reply #79 on:** September 23, 2003, 08:46:17 am »

LOL

I_Mudd · « **Reply #80 on:** September 23, 2003, 09:27:44 am »

I'm not normally a TNG type of guy, but this design looks good. I'm very curious as to how this will turn out.

I_Mudd.

Azel · « **Reply #81 on:** September 23, 2003, 09:40:50 am »

UH OH...5 pages Korah,
everyone is waiting on you now

Azel · « **Reply #82 on:** September 23, 2003, 09:42:32 am »

BTW thanks Mudd, for the vote of praise
You are not the only one waiting to see how she comes out

so take a number

lol

Azel · « **Reply #83 on:** September 23, 2003, 12:47:04 pm »

bump...getting kinda low...you know?

Smiley · « **Reply #84 on:** September 24, 2003, 12:00:26 pm »

Page 2? I think not! hehe

Azel · « **Reply #85 on:** September 25, 2003, 11:34:31 am »

I agree

Captain KoraH · « **Reply #86 on:** September 26, 2003, 02:36:54 am »

Ok, here is another WIP to show how things are progressing. I fixed the saucer section and the "cape" to Atolm's specs, re-smoothed the secondary hull, and started on the warp nacelle spars. I'm making the nacelles seperately and will drop them in when the rest of the main ship mesh is done. It shouldn't be long now!

Azel · « **Reply #87 on:** September 26, 2003, 05:21:23 pm »

HOLY "F"ING CRAP!!!
Just when I thought you were out(literally...I thought Capt, that you were going to call a Quits on the project...Man you are amazing..Thank you)
Man I donot surprise easily...but this , this is greatness...Thank you
That has too be one of the coolest things that I have ever seen...and in Blue...sweetness

Thanks again Capt.
Damn...Thanks

Azel · « **Reply #88 on:** September 27, 2003, 08:27:40 am »

Bumb for those who missed her epic return!!!

Captain KoraH · « **Reply #89 on:** September 28, 2003, 02:10:17 am »

Ok the mesh is finished. This is the over-and-under nacelle design. I'll make the side-by-side variant too as time permits. This is a bare mesh, with no textures, hardpoints, damage points, break model ect ect, and is just for texturing, not for playing with. Download the TNG Andor mesh here.

Azel · « **Reply #90 on:** September 28, 2003, 08:58:00 am »

Wow thanks Man...now all we need is Smiley

Azel · « **Reply #91 on:** September 28, 2003, 09:03:20 am »

BTW...THANK YOU CAPTAIN KORAH!!!

YOU DA MAN!!!

Captain KoraH · « **Reply #92 on:** September 28, 2003, 03:21:42 pm »

You guys are very welcome. I hope Smiley can put some nice skins on her.

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