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3dot14
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Com'n LB, be reasonable.
Say what you want, the Best model in your view may not be the best in others. You should at least acknowledge that all of the winners are good models and have a chance to win, by saying "so and so don't deserve" is not helping your case. Remember Free Speech is not completely free. (you can't hurt people with your speech.)
It's a judgement call. and the judgement didn't go in your favor. Are you disappointed? well you have a right to be.
But don't start pointing finger at the winners as if they did something wrong.
You don't agree with the choices. Fine, voice it. (i didn't agree with one myself, one I wasn't entered into.) but it's the judges opinions that counts. It's not the others fault that the judges like theirs.
True you are not speaking for just yourself. But still the fact remains: the judges didn't agree with your assessment. And they are within their rights to. Imagine if you are in the judges seat, and I come accusing of foul play while you honestly "didn't like" mine, What would you think? After all "doesn't like" happens ALL THE TIME in arts be it visual, theatre, or writing. It's all about whether the audiences' subjective whims. You can't score art (Figure Skating anyone?) the way one scores multiple choices...
You didn't win, doesn't mean you lost. (I know it's spliting hairs...) But it doesn't have to be a blow to your prestige, it's just an improvement of someone elses... Don't make this any more awkward than it already is.
Please LB, reconsider.
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James Formo
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Looks like the plug got pulled  |
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Bob Graham
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<SNIP> you have now insulted our artists, (good guys that have a lot more talent than you). </SNIP>
Dave
At great risk of being banned, Ill belive that when I see it... |
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Brad Bowermaster
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Mr. Graham, you are greatly misinformed. You are basing your judgment on Taldren's artists upon works that have to meet guidelines as opposed to LB's work which only meets the guidelines he sets himself. Assuming you are complaining about the stock models, Taldren's artists must create models and textures, to be able to run on anyone's computers, which forces a polygon restriction and texture size limit. While Taldren models must be under ~1,500 polys and can only have textures of 256x256, LB's and any modeler's model for that matter, can be any poly count they choose (usually within the 3,000-4,000 range) and include textures up to 512x512. Community Modelers don't have to worry about the 'lowest common denominator,' because they can simply say, "if it doesn't work on your machine, I can't do anything about it," while Taldren has to ensure that every model works in game to meet the minimum specs on the box. Maybe you should reconsider your views on Taldren's artists.
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Lord Bile
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As I said in my other thread to Dave, I was wrong, and Brad is correct, they do have many restrictions. and it also makes the deadlines harder to meet when you have restrictions, because it can take longer to stay within the limitations by trying to reduce polyes and such.
They are the Professionals. We are the Modders, we make it the way we want it as long as our own machines can handle it, thats our only limitation.
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resistance is futile
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I just like to say that the ships listed as done by Viper1 were actually Deemons ships, there was a mixup.
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Paladin
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For what its worth to the guy that won, I really loved your winning entry and thought that it should have won. There was definitely alot of great models and i can see how it was hard to decide. I think that some of them that didnt win here, could have definitely won earlier rounds if they were sentt in earlier, but they didnt. Congrats. Are they for d/l anywhere?
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jrstandfast
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I make my living both by Judging and being Judged. I train and also Judge Horseshows.
The best observation I have ever heard came from an old Texas Judge who quite frankly dumped on me pretty hard in a class.
I asked him why. He said.
"Son, all things being equal I just didn't like your horse. But... that's only my opinion and it only lasts a day."
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Ducttapewonder
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I had a conversation with one of the greatest modelers around here last week. We discussed how this contest would serve no purpose other than to feed some and trash others egos, and how he refuses to submit his work to it.. I for one liked this place a lot better when we were'nt arguing about about crap like......... "MY MODEL IS BETTER THAN YOURS....SO THERE  . This once was a place where we could all come to share our work and learn new skills. But anmymore, this is what is happening....... WIP THREAD...3 REPLIES...................BICKERING THREAD....40 REPLIES. It almost makes me feel like posting about my work is not worth my time and less important than moaning and groaning. With all due respect to the Taldren staff, I think you should reconsider running this contest any longer. We are at risk of losing "MORE" great modelers from this community because of it. Just my $.02 |
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TheBigCheese
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LB, I entered my model in the second round (the romulan frigate) ,it was the first model I have ever made.I thought it was the best and should have won also seeing as I made it ESPECIALLY for the competition unlike other entries but I lost and took it on the chin.Dont have tantrum's man get over it and do better stuff ,you know you can! Prove the critic's wrong  |
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Viper/VR
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I think this thread needs to be closed now, dont you think admins/moderators???
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Atrahasis
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you know im so happy that im not that active around here anymore. just listen to all of this crap...
look what a simple contest turns into now.
there were some nice models, and some not so nice ones from what ive seen.
some of the winning ships are not that fantastic and to be totally honest at the risk of being flamed for voicing my opinion like LB, had i entered such a contest i would have expected better from taldren and the judges.
im not taking any sides here, but its just my thoughts on things...
Yes Moon, it was a nice contest, wasn't it? |
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Xethemez
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Is there any chance that all of us here can just pretend this never happened?
I have a great respect for your work LB, I think the Scorpion is a very well made and origonal ship - and I am not the only person who thinks this. But the competition was not designed to put people down, it was just a bit of friendly competition.
So is it possible we can let it drop and get back to modelling?
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Xethemez
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Ignore my quote for the duration of the thread... It destroys my argument  |
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CptSavage
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NEver mind. JUst stop the contest all together, it has caused too much friction. I've been through alot myself, family wise. THat isn't my point. Everything is falling apart everywhere.
Lets do this. Stop the contest, and forgive all. No hard feelings.
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« Last Edit: January 29, 2003, 01:28:56 pm by CptSavage »
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Atrahasis
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Um, I enjoyed the contest and thought the choices were superb.
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Lord Bile
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I've already dropped this. Its not my fault people keep posting in this thread now.
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