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Smiley

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Bored Again
« on: October 16, 2003, 10:26:49 pm »
Got a bit bored of doing the textures for the Andor, so had a go at something else for a wee break.....
 
Look familiar Azel?  
« Last Edit: December 31, 1969, 06:00:00 pm by Smiley »

Azel

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Re: Bored Again
« Reply #1 on: October 16, 2003, 11:05:55 pm »
you never cease to amaze me man!!!
awesome!!!

 

Kaenyne

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Re: Bored Again
« Reply #2 on: October 17, 2003, 07:57:38 am »
I have no idea why this guy considers himself an amateur. Just look at that detailing!

Smiley

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Re: Bored Again
« Reply #3 on: October 17, 2003, 09:42:05 am »
hehe, thanks.....Well, sometimes I have good days
   

Steelviper33

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Re: Bored Again
« Reply #4 on: October 17, 2003, 09:48:22 am »
How do you do this?!?

dude, you should make a video tutorial on how you make textures, it would really help alot of us out.

MarianoDT

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Re: Bored Again
« Reply #5 on: October 17, 2003, 12:20:50 pm »
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How do you do this?!?

dude, you should make a video tutorial on how you make textures, it would really help alot of us out.  




I second that, even a writen tutorial would be great. I find very difficult to make a texture from scratch.
I īve tried using some renders from the differents parts of the ship I wanted to make and then modify/detail this files, but there must be a better way...!!!!

Please...

Even if you are tired of reading this ALL the time let me tell you that    YOUR WORK IS AWESOME...!!!!!  


Thanks,

Mariano
   

Azel

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Re: Bored Again
« Reply #6 on: October 18, 2003, 08:59:39 am »
BTW guys teh ship is my Tempest-Class, USS Xavier...as more pics become available you will see why  

Steelviper33

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Re: Bored Again
« Reply #7 on: October 18, 2003, 12:35:10 pm »
Quote:

Quote:

How do you do this?!?

dude, you should make a video tutorial on how you make textures, it would really help alot of us out.  




I second that, even a writen tutorial would be great. I find very difficult to make a texture from scratch.
I īve tried using some renders from the differents parts of the ship I wanted to make and then modify/detail this files, but there must be a better way...!!!!

Please...

Even if you are tired of reading this ALL the time let me tell you that    YOUR WORK IS AWESOME...!!!!!  


Thanks,

Mariano
     




Bump...smiley, and chance of doing a vid-tutorial?

sandman69247

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Re: Bored Again
« Reply #8 on: October 18, 2003, 12:49:18 pm »
TUTORIAL, TUTORIAL, TUTORIAL!!!! You must do a tut for us lowly peons...please!! I still try to figure out what you did on my Cherokee, and think "Man! I'd give my left nut to texture that good!" If not a video tut, then at least a written one...hell, do it up in html and I'll put it up at my site. Only needs to be one aspect...probably the saucer. Most of what would need to be learned for the whole ship can be taught on the saucer.

PRETTY PLEASE WITH G'AGH ON TOP!?!

 

Smiley

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Re: Bored Again
« Reply #9 on: October 18, 2003, 04:47:23 pm »
Hi all

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BTW guys teh ship is my Tempest-Class, USS Xavier...as more pics become available you will see why



Damn, I didn't know what you wanted it to be called so I put "USS Tempest" all over her shiny hull, lol, oh well - thaat I can change!

Quote:

TUTORIAL, TUTORIAL, TUTORIAL!!!!  You must do a tut for us lowly peons...please!! I still try to figure out what you did on my Cherokee, and think "Man! I'd give my left nut to texture that good!"   If not a video tut, then at least a written one...hell, do it up in html and I'll put it up at my site. Only needs to be one aspect...probably the saucer. Most of what would need to be learned for the whole ship can be taught on the saucer.

PRETTY PLEASE WITH G'AGH ON TOP!?!



Quote:

I second that, even a writen tutorial would be great. I find very difficult to make a texture from scratch.
I īve tried using some renders from the differents parts of the ship I wanted to make and then modify/detail this files, but there must be a better way...!!!!




Hmm, a video tutorial isn't really practical as I texture in a very sporadic fashion, and although you would definitely see exactly how I did something, sometimes it's more luck than judgement!
However I can definitely do an illustrated written tutorial, maybe even with some sample files and stuff if that would be of any use to you guys.

Quote:

Even if you are tired of reading this ALL the time let me tell you that YOUR WORK IS AWESOME...!!!!!



:Big griin: Hehe thankyou very much!

I only got two hours sleep last night and I had work all day today, and work all day tomorrow too, so I won't be doing much tonight.

     

I_Mudd

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Re: Bored Again
« Reply #10 on: October 18, 2003, 05:42:14 pm »
 
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  ... only got two hours sleep last night and I had work all day today, and work all day tomorrow too, so I won't be doing much tonight.
 




heh ...

I know that feeling all too well.

I_Mudd.

Azel

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Re: Bored Again
« Reply #11 on: October 18, 2003, 07:33:32 pm »
 
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  Hi all


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BTW guys teh ship is my Tempest-Class, USS Xavier...as more pics become available you will see why


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Damn, I didn't know what you wanted it to be called so I put "USS Tempest" all over her shiny hull, lol, oh well - thaat I can change!





No Don't...Its cool
She will be the prototype  

Steelviper33

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Re: Bored Again
« Reply #12 on: October 19, 2003, 09:09:48 am »
Bump in hopes of Smiley writing that tutorial, im quaking in my chair as we speak.

Azel

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Re: Bored Again
« Reply #13 on: October 19, 2003, 10:22:13 pm »
Still Looking Good  

Smiley

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Re: Bored Again
« Reply #14 on: October 20, 2003, 10:26:04 am »
Quote:

Bump in hopes of Smiley writing that tutorial, im quaking in my chair as we speak.  




lol, give me a chance

   

Smiley

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Re: Bored Again
« Reply #15 on: October 20, 2003, 02:46:49 pm »
   

Kaenyne

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Re: Bored Again
« Reply #16 on: October 20, 2003, 02:51:29 pm »
Smiley:

You've got a masterwork there, man.

I want you and Azel making ships for the next Trek movie.

Berman, are you reading this?

Azel

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Re: Bored Again
« Reply #17 on: October 20, 2003, 05:03:31 pm »
 
Quote:

 Smiley:

You've got a masterwork there, man.

I want you and Azel making ships for the next Trek movie.

Berman, are you reading this?  




Thanks Man!!!
That means alot man...I am sure that it does for Smiley aswell
As for Berman...well as much as I would LOVE to work for Star Trek designing ships(And of course working with Smiley on them ), I have never gotten a response to my queries other than,"Your work is good, but Sorry we are a full house now, and are not looking for anyone new.", or they want schooling in the Arts...as for me I  study the sciences, and  am too far along in the sciences to go an start over now(silly me...I thought that it would be better to go to school to learn something that can be acually weighed with grades...Art to me is just too arbortrary and cannot be a graded aspect of life)

But thanks man
   

Smiley

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Re: Bored Again
« Reply #18 on: October 20, 2003, 08:19:45 pm »
Thankyou Kaenyne, it's a pleasure to work with Azel

One more pic before bed...
   

James Formo

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Re: Bored Again
« Reply #19 on: October 21, 2003, 03:02:12 pm »
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Quote:

 Smiley:

You've got a masterwork there, man.

I want you and Azel making ships for the next Trek movie.

Berman, are you reading this?  




Thanks Man!!!
That means alot man...I am sure that it does for Smiley aswell
As for Berman...well as much as I would LOVE to work for Star Trek designing ships(And of course working with Smiley on them ), I have never gotten a response to my queries other than,"Your work is good, but Sorry we are a full house now, and are not looking for anyone new.", or they want schooling in the Arts...as for me I  study the sciences, and  am too far along in the sciences to go an start over now(silly me...I thought that it would be better to go to school to learn something that can be acually weighed with grades...Art to me is just too arbortrary and cannot be a graded aspect of life)

But thanks man
   




The thing is. Game companies have requirements and restrictions regarding poly counts. ie: SFC3 had a 1000 poligon limit per model with exception of the Borg cube (1500). They also limit the size and number of bitmaps.  Modelers in the forum ships look better largely because they are higher poly and use multiple bitmaps. This may be partly why they are suggesting schooling where you would learn how to make lower poly models. Plus if they have other modelers and they all have met school requirements, it would then be odd for them to hire someone without them. Not too mention that it would be easier to communicate with modelers using max if you are familiar with all operations and terminology max uses.

Your stating that you are going to school for science also implies that that is more important to you.  If you are serious about a career in 3d you might want to consider formal training in the software that gamers are using. It might be only a 1 year program that is necessary, which perhaps you could squeeze in between your other courses.  

WickedZombie45

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Re: Bored Again
« Reply #20 on: October 21, 2003, 03:28:34 pm »
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 This may be partly why they are suggesting schooling where you would learn how to make lower poly models.




Somehow I doubt a modeler would need to go to school to make their ships less detailed as everyone starts out making low res ships. It's kinda like sending someone to learn how to crawl even though that's the first thing they did as a baby (well, next to crying for their pacifier). This isn't exactly a 'set in stone' art form where once you make something it can't be changed or undone. Making a 1000 polygon model is damned easy - you just have to model the basic shape of the object and then modify it accordingly. If you go over the set limit, you can just chop off more parts.  

Azel

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Re: Bored Again
« Reply #21 on: October 21, 2003, 03:35:43 pm »
 
Quote:

The thing is. Game companies have requirements and restrictions regarding poly counts. ie: SFC3 had a 1000 poligon limit per model with exception of the Borg cube (1500). They also limit the size and number of bitmaps. Modelers in the forum ships look better largely because they are higher poly and use multiple bitmaps. This may be partly why they are suggesting schooling where you would learn how to make lower poly models. Plus if they have other modelers and they all have met school requirements, it would then be odd for them to hire someone without them. Not too mention that it would be easier to communicate with modelers using max if you are familiar with all operations and terminology max uses.

Your stating that you are going to school for science also implies that that is more important to you. If you are serious about a career in 3d you might want to consider formal training in the software that gamers are using. It might be only a 1 year program that is necessary, which perhaps you could squeeze in between your other courses.
 




I was not reffering to Video games man
I was talking about designing starships for Paramount...or another place ILM etc...I am a conceptual designer...it is what I do...if some says "hey I need a monster/ship for a film", I am your man...If you want something that you have never seen before(please excuse my ill-modesty here guys...sorry) I am your man.
I study science because it is what i like..Art is however my life..I didn't persue it in college because it was less important to me...but because I cannot stand art classes.  Unless I am being payed I will not be told what to draw, sculpt or paint anything and be judged on it if I am not in the mood(if that makes sense).
I use science in My art...iT has helped me in Far more and many ways man...

But thanks for the comment    

James Formo

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Re: Bored Again
« Reply #22 on: October 21, 2003, 03:41:11 pm »
It may just be the standerd. Where schooling is required, not just for knowing all the terminology and techniques but also to see if you are serious enough to jump through some 'hoops' in order to realize your goal.  

I  once took a basic art course in painting, It wasn't my major. We had an assignment and we were required to use a certain color. I used a different color, saying that art is expression and color should not be assigned.  I ended up with a C. The instructor felt that we needed the fundenmentals before we could express ourselves. I am not stating my beliefs on this subject. Just pointing out that a prospective hirer might be looking at things from a different perspective.  They may be looking for an artist that can follow rigid requirements. They may have an large say in what the finished product must look like and may not allow the artist to vary much from there required end product.  They may just have a school requirement and thats the bottom line. An artist could always learn from instuction regardless of how advanced there skills. If they feel they can not. Its probably that there ego has gotten too big.

This was posted before your last post Azel, Just after WZ45's. So it might seem that it doesn't fit your last comments, that is why. And I did not realize you were referring to strictly design so my bad there. Your designs definitely rock so best of luck in your effoerts along those lines.  I thought you were trying to get into 3d modeling.  



 
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sandman69247

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Re: Bored Again
« Reply #23 on: October 21, 2003, 03:58:08 pm »
You hit the nail on the head, James. I read  a magazine called "Computer Arts", an UK publication, and it has articles dealing with breaking into the business of graphic design etc. One of the main things to remember, is that when you are hired by a company, or freelancing, the client will provide a brief, explaining what they want; the mag even has demonstrations, where they send a brief to 3 or 4 artists, then they show the thought processes involved and the final outcome...usually completely different but still getting the message across.

Azel, for you I would say to stay freelance and design your stuff. You can sell original designs and artwork...it's just ST related stuff that is off limits. I know I would love to be able to do that myself, but I'm more technically sound that artistically. Show me a design and I can probably do a good job recreating it, but designing my own stuff...well let's just say the few I have done were baaadddd, really baaaddddd.

 

Azel

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Re: Bored Again
« Reply #24 on: October 21, 2003, 03:59:13 pm »
Its cool man...right now I'll take what I can get  

Smiley

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Re: Bored Again
« Reply #25 on: October 21, 2003, 07:42:37 pm »
BUMP...(before Azel does it for me, lol)

Azel

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Re: Bored Again
« Reply #26 on: October 21, 2003, 08:37:46 pm »
 
Quote:

BUMP...(before Azel does it for me, lol)  




Trying to be Funny...LOL
well it worked lol
I should have some dominion ships by friday  

Smiley

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Re: Bored Again
« Reply #27 on: October 23, 2003, 09:15:21 am »
Thunderchild over at BCU wants to convert this to BC once it is done, is that ok with you Azel?
Also I was wondering; what's the history on this ship? The unusual nacelles that it has - is there any special reason for them to be shaped like this? I need some ideas so that I can texture them - I take it from the name that this has some connection to time travelling?

 
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Kaenyne

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Re: Bored Again
« Reply #28 on: October 23, 2003, 09:27:40 am »
Yeah, a time travelling starship would be cool. Sounds like the premise of the next show, Star Trek: Tempest.

I know I've harped on this before, so snack me uip side the head if it feels good, but I think you and Azel are more than ready to take on the Titan Class from ussmiranda.com. Her primary hull looks somewhat like the Tempest, but the secondary hull and nacelles are more traditional. Just passing that along...(slinks away).

Azel

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Re: Bored Again
« Reply #29 on: October 23, 2003, 10:17:21 am »
Considering that practically every ship in ST can Time Travel( with warp and a star), I don't know if Time travel would be the way to go(but I am always open to the possibity)...the warp pylons were designed to handle enormous stresses in HET(high enegy turns), and warp manuvers.
As for possible Transwarp , Slipstream, or even Space Folding..that maybe more fesable...I don't know
LOL

She's still looking awesome man  

Smiley

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Re: Bored Again
« Reply #30 on: October 24, 2003, 03:51:42 pm »
Hi Azel, I umm...have a request....

OK here goes; Can I please Sir change the nacelles on the Tempest to something a little easier to say...um...like this?
 

Azel

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Re: Bored Again
« Reply #31 on: October 24, 2003, 03:56:10 pm »
Um....no...sorry man, I really like the nacelles,,,can you model a newer version to make it easier...but keep the similar aspects???  

Smiley

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Re: Bored Again
« Reply #32 on: October 24, 2003, 03:57:51 pm »
Ok, no problem

Can you make a quick diagram of what you imagine the nacelles to look like when textured?
I'm not even sure where the Warp Field Grilles go on the current ones!

Azel

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Re: Bored Again
« Reply #33 on: October 24, 2003, 04:01:00 pm »
ok man gimmie a sec...  

Smiley

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Re: Bored Again
« Reply #34 on: October 24, 2003, 04:02:49 pm »
Thankyou!!!! Thankyou!!!! Thankyou!!!!

Azel

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Re: Bored Again
« Reply #35 on: October 24, 2003, 04:18:25 pm »
Try this Smiley
You may have to work with the mesh for some details though

   

Smiley

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Re: Bored Again
« Reply #36 on: October 24, 2003, 04:24:10 pm »
WHOA!
That's pretty funky!
Any special reason for the blue bussards, just out of interest?
Thanks for being so speedy

Azel

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Re: Bored Again
« Reply #37 on: October 24, 2003, 04:25:15 pm »
I lIke Blue

And I always Come to my friends when they call me  

Smiley

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Re: Bored Again
« Reply #38 on: October 24, 2003, 05:31:14 pm »
Thanks Azel, I hope that this is getting closer to what you'd like to be (I still have to add the bits on the bottom and the TOS styled details)

 

Azel

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Re: Bored Again
« Reply #39 on: October 24, 2003, 06:14:03 pm »
Very cool man !!!
Just remember to keep that cross section shape and overall shape of the original  

Azel

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Re: Bored Again
« Reply #40 on: October 24, 2003, 06:17:15 pm »
oh, and please sleek out the front of the nacelle...its alittle too blunt
The ships is supposed to be fast..  

Smiley

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Re: Bored Again
« Reply #41 on: October 24, 2003, 06:17:49 pm »
D'oh! I just realised that the pic on the far left is a cross section!

Azel

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Re: Bored Again
« Reply #42 on: October 24, 2003, 06:19:45 pm »
lol sorry...Thats my fault should have labeled it ...My Bad  

Smiley

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Re: Bored Again
« Reply #43 on: October 25, 2003, 01:18:10 pm »
I don't think that these look right - some of your designs are so organic that I find them hard to model with primitives, and even splines, lol, I must be too simple!

   

Azel

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Re: Bored Again
« Reply #44 on: October 25, 2003, 01:27:36 pm »
That looks good...got a direct side veiw and front view of the Nacelle???  

Smiley

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Re: Bored Again
« Reply #45 on: October 25, 2003, 01:34:37 pm »
     

Azel

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Re: Bored Again
« Reply #46 on: October 25, 2003, 01:38:21 pm »
Ok can you extend the right side (when looking directly foward's right) alittle more outward???
and show me a top view if you can...thanks  

Smiley

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Re: Bored Again
« Reply #47 on: October 25, 2003, 01:50:55 pm »
Argh! Because I didn't look at the cross section picture in the beginning it has all gone horribly wrong now that I try and match it up. It's creating mesh errors left, right and centre.

Starting again with my eyes open this time! Apologies for the delay...again!  

Azel

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Re: Bored Again
« Reply #48 on: October 25, 2003, 01:57:20 pm »
 
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 Argh! Because I didn't look at the cross section picture in the beginning it has all gone horribly wrong now that I try and match it up. It's creating mesh errors left, right and centre.

Starting again with my eyes open this time! Apologies for the delay...again!  




Dude don't get fustrated, its My fault...I should have been more conservative in my ideas my bad man
 

Smiley

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Re: Bored Again
« Reply #49 on: October 25, 2003, 02:00:08 pm »
Quote:

 
Quote:

 Argh! Because I didn't look at the cross section picture in the beginning it has all gone horribly wrong now that I try and match it up. It's creating mesh errors left, right and centre.

Starting again with my eyes open this time! Apologies for the delay...again!  




Dude don't get fustrated, its My fault...I should have been more conservative in my ideas my bad man
   




LOL that's a good one, I'm not frustrated anymore - I just don't want to keep you waiting any longer than necessary. Never keep your ideas conversative, it's your imagination that makes your designs so full of the "wow" factor    

Azel

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Re: Bored Again
« Reply #50 on: October 25, 2003, 02:12:53 pm »
 
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Argh! Because I didn't look at the cross section picture in the beginning it has all gone horribly wrong now that I try and match it up. It's creating mesh errors left, right and centre.

Starting again with my eyes open this time! Apologies for the delay...again!


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Dude don't get fustrated, its My fault...I should have been more conservative in my ideas my bad man



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LOL that's a good one, I'm not frustrated anymore - I just don't want to keep you waiting any longer than necessary. Never keep your ideas conversative, it's your imagination that makes your designs so full of the "wow" factor    





Thanks man...Could you not have just used my original warp necelle mesh and just made mesh modifications???  

Smiley

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Re: Bored Again
« Reply #51 on: October 25, 2003, 06:11:11 pm »
Ok, I have begun the new nacelle....I believe that I have more closely followed your plan and also the original mesh too. However, I did take a few liberties around the bussards -thought it needed a bit of detailing to make it more interesting when I texture it. I hpoe that these are better!

 
   

Azel

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Re: Bored Again
« Reply #52 on: October 25, 2003, 07:48:13 pm »
OK Now Thats SWEET work
!!!
Amazing job man  

Smiley

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Re: Bored Again
« Reply #53 on: October 26, 2003, 03:58:05 pm »
Phew! I'm so pleased that this one meets your approval - here si the more or less finished nacelle shot...Hope that it is still ok with you

 

Azel

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Re: Bored Again
« Reply #54 on: October 26, 2003, 06:22:15 pm »
ok just donot connect the grill to the Aft grill...keep them like the one just before this updated disign  

Smiley

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Re: Bored Again
« Reply #55 on: October 27, 2003, 07:23:15 am »


How about that?  

Azel

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Re: Bored Again
« Reply #56 on: October 27, 2003, 02:29:54 pm »
Awesome!!!  

Anthony_Scott

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Re: Bored Again
« Reply #57 on: October 28, 2003, 10:52:18 am »
WOW...awesome work! I am eagerly awaiting the release of this beautiful job!

Semper Fi, Carry On
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Kaenyne

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Re: Bored Again
« Reply #58 on: October 28, 2003, 11:58:21 am »
Oh yes. The newly redesigned nacelles look MUCH more attractive now. The earlier version clashed with the design, IMHO.

Greta job Smiley. This ship looks better and better with each update!

Reverend

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Re: Bored Again
« Reply #59 on: October 28, 2003, 12:40:45 pm »
good show, Smiley... personally, I didnt think the last ones were all that bad, but compared to your new ones... well, these are pretty darn nice!  

Azel

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Re: Bored Again
« Reply #60 on: October 29, 2003, 07:38:06 am »
Das Boomp!!  

Smiley

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Re: Bored Again
« Reply #61 on: October 29, 2003, 02:06:44 pm »
   

Azel

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Re: Bored Again
« Reply #62 on: October 29, 2003, 03:30:31 pm »
Awesome!!!!
JUST FREAKIN AWESOME!!!
Hey Smiley here Is something for you:)
http://www.frost-works.com/watchtower/NewDefiant.zip  
Enjoy

Just one thing...after the Tempest...can we get to the Andor???
Please lol
 

Kaenyne

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Re: Bored Again
« Reply #63 on: October 29, 2003, 03:36:18 pm »
Duh, duh, duh, DUDE!!!

I'm stunned, simply stunned....(faints)

Smiley

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Re: Bored Again
« Reply #64 on: October 29, 2003, 05:17:07 pm »
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Awesome!!!!
JUST FREAKIN AWESOME!!!
Hey Smiley here Is something for you:)
http://www.frost-works.com/watchtower/NewDefiant.zip
Enjoy

Just one thing...after the Tempest...can we get to the Andor???
Please lol



Hey thanks Azel, it's very reassuring to know that you still like her after I modified the mesh so much!
Of course I'll move on to finishing the Andor as soon as I have completed the textures on the Tempest
Then it's either on to doing the Defiant refit that you have very kindly posted a link to - or even maybe I'll build your Sentry before texturing the Defiant- I have to say that I really really love that Sentry design! And it's been a while since a made a mesh, don't want to get out of practice!


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Duh, duh, duh, DUDE!!!

I'm stunned, simply stunned....(faints)



Thanks! I'm glad that you like it!

Just have to map the line of polies down the sides of the secondary hull, the bit underneath and then the bottom of the saucer and a few bits on the neck and then it will be done!
 
     

Azel

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Re: Bored Again
« Reply #65 on: October 29, 2003, 05:22:47 pm »
 
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 Hey thanks Azel, it's very reassuring to know that you still like her after I modified the mesh so much!
Of course I'll move on to finishing the Andor as soon as I have completed the textures on the Tempest
Then it's either on to doing the Defiant refit that you have very kindly posted a link to - or even maybe I'll build your Sentry before texturing the Defiant- I have to say that I really really love that Sentry design! And it's been a while since a made a mesh, don't want to get out of practice!
 




Ok I can Mesh the sentry...but you will have to Tweak it...as I am not that good yet ...but I'll get you the basic shape
Thanks man
And you Have done and are doing a Damn impressive job on that Tempest...Damned Fine!!!
Thanks

Glad you liked the Defiant...I tweaked the look alittle so more of my style for the 2000's that drawing was done
back in 96

Thanks again man!!!  

Azel

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Re: Bored Again
« Reply #66 on: October 29, 2003, 05:36:36 pm »
 
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 Ok I can Mesh the sentry...but you will have to Tweak it...as I am not that good yet ...but I'll get you the basic shape  



That is unless you would want to mesh it on your own  

Reverend

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Re: Bored Again
« Reply #67 on: October 29, 2003, 11:09:04 pm »
true, the Tempest is progressing heartily...  

Smiley

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Re: Bored Again
« Reply #68 on: October 30, 2003, 08:23:59 am »
I wouldn't mind having a go at meshing the Sentry myself, if you don't mind me doing that Azel?

Righty-ho - drawing nearer to completion now - I'm a little fed up with some of the areas on the ship that I have started to texture but don't really feel right about!

For example, the bit that I've done on the neck with the large triangles looks completely wrong now that I've done it! Any ideas/pointers? Help at this stage would certainly speed things along a bit! :hint hint:

 

EDIT: D'Oh - forgot to add the picture! lol  
« Last Edit: October 30, 2003, 08:25:55 am by Smiley »

Kaenyne

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Re: Bored Again
« Reply #69 on: October 30, 2003, 08:59:30 am »
Hmmm, how about instead of the triangles, try adding more of those blue windows that appear slightly below and to the right of them. Maybe enlarge them just a little and spread them out a bit?

Azel

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Re: Bored Again
« Reply #70 on: October 30, 2003, 09:12:03 am »

 
I think I like them!!!
The only other thing I could drop in there instead or include with the black triangles would be Vents like the Excelsior class
BTW is that a quantum launcher in that dark area???
if it is you may want to swap that with either an auxillary deflector or sensor pallete(or just combo them as you hseem to have plenty of room in there next to the lonely blue light)
Or just at some photon torps launcher to the sides of that blue Quantum launcher

Thanks:)

BTW when you get to that rear Alcove under the ship...Can you add a Light Blue ambient light coming from inside there, Reminiscent of the Excelsior class in ST 6 closing sequence???

As for the Sentry By all means sir
I would have to be   to not let you

Hey did you get my email???  

Anthony_Scott

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Re: Bored Again
« Reply #71 on: October 30, 2003, 09:42:54 am »
Yo Smiley...I cannot say enough about your work so I won't....but good work my friend! A case of french wine to you when you get to paris next year!

Semper Fi, Carry On

Smiley

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Re: Bored Again
« Reply #72 on: October 30, 2003, 10:48:29 am »
Thankyou all for your kind words and creative input
Wine? Is it red? lol don't let me near any wine until I have finished at least 5 more ships, or else I might get mobbed by angry Taldrenites, rofl! j/k

Azel, yup I received your email, replied a few minutes ago
I have made the previous torpedo turret thingy into a auxillary deflector of sorts, but I was wondering if you would mind if I added a dedicated quantum pulse turret to the bottom of the aux deflector- Similar in style to that of the venerable Sovereign class's?

Once again, thankyou all  

Azel

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Re: Bored Again
« Reply #73 on: October 30, 2003, 11:08:59 am »
 
Quote:

Azel, yup I received your email, replied a few minutes ago
I have made the previous torpedo turret thingy into a auxillary deflector of sorts, but I was wondering if you would mind if I added a dedicated quantum pulse turret to the bottom of the aux deflector- Similar in style to that of the venerable Sovereign class's?

Once again, thankyou all    




By all means sir

And no it should be I thanking you  

Kaenyne

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Re: Bored Again
« Reply #74 on: October 30, 2003, 11:10:52 am »
Yeah, a quantum pulse turret would do nicely, IMHO.

Captain Ron

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Re: Bored Again
« Reply #75 on: October 30, 2003, 12:50:30 pm »
Hello Smiley!
no I am not Don...
Don't take offense here as I will be brief (I hate to type)
Ok I was looking over your posted picks and it looks as if the bottom of the saucer is far less detailed. Even though it is smooth like the top it seems to follow a different pattern to the textures, the sovereign is a different beast and doesn't quite fit here as the mold to use. I would lighten or fade the red around the phaser ring that dark colour makes it look toyish. The triangles on the side I would eother make as one rectangle with horazontal details, maybe a recessed area there, or make the top black with the bottom the same as the aztec pattern of the saucer with windows (give them a recessed look at the top). the black can be staight at the top and extend from the first triangle all the way to the engine pylons. the bottom will have a curved line fron the pylon all the way to the bottom of that first triangle. You can use the piece on the pylon as the line up maker for the work the triangle as the other.

Add flush vents to the bottom ofthe engines on the saucer. I would use that same pattern you use on the top of the saucer on the center lower part, the aztec with the lines through it just on a smaller scale. Lastly rap the thrusters on the saucer to the underside as well, Yes I know they can be a pain to line up but it adds great detail with out getting into tiny detail work.

Azel

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Re: Bored Again
« Reply #76 on: October 30, 2003, 02:07:54 pm »
thats cool  

Smiley

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Re: Bored Again
« Reply #77 on: October 30, 2003, 06:50:57 pm »
No offense taken! Although I haven't even finished the bottom of the saucer, like so many things with me - I start something and move on to another thing; in this case I started that texture and went off to do another one because I wasn't happy with the way it was going and thought that if I could do something else then I might get some ideas/inspiration

Some of what you say I understand, but there are few bits that I can't visualise! Now I know now that you don't like to type but maybe you can draw me a picture? (Without me sounding too stupid!)

I'm working Friday 11:00-20:00 ao I don't know if I'll get much, if anything done - then it's off to a birthday party 40 odd miles away in Tewkesbury! Getting drunk on a boat...hmm sounds dangerous...lol, I'll be back...maybe!
« Last Edit: December 31, 1969, 06:00:00 pm by Smiley »

Azel

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Re: Bored Again
« Reply #78 on: October 30, 2003, 09:01:55 pm »
I know what you mean man.

LOL  

Azel

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Re: Bored Again
« Reply #79 on: November 02, 2003, 04:08:50 pm »
BUMP!!!  

Smiley

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Re: Bored Again
« Reply #80 on: November 03, 2003, 06:46:05 pm »
I managed to get a few bits and pieces of the mesh done today, I've textured the qunatum torpedo turret that I added and I've changed the triangle bits on the sides...The RCS thrusters have been carier over to the bottom of the saucer, but I am going to redo the textures on the rest of the bottom of the saucer, so ignore that part!

 








       

Azel

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Re: Bored Again
« Reply #81 on: November 03, 2003, 07:04:14 pm »
DUDE YOU ARE SOOOOO THE MAN!!!
 
Just try not to loose those awesome retro homage paying triangles in the fowards the front of the bottom saucer textures please  

Azel

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Re: Bored Again
« Reply #82 on: November 03, 2003, 07:05:14 pm »
BTW in case you didn't hear me the first 50 times :

THANKS MAN!!!  

Desty_Nova

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Re: Bored Again
« Reply #83 on: November 03, 2003, 07:42:47 pm »
This ship absolutely rocks.  

Reverend

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Re: Bored Again
« Reply #84 on: November 04, 2003, 02:13:21 am »
no kidding she looks tough
 

CurlyWht72521

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Re: Bored Again
« Reply #85 on: November 04, 2003, 08:03:19 am »
Amazing work!!!   and u do this when your bored??!!  i'd like to see what you do when yur seriously working on a project!!

   < i love this guy!  

Kaenyne

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Re: Bored Again
« Reply #86 on: November 04, 2003, 08:49:40 am »
(Regaining consciousness from last fainting spell) Whu...what happened? Hey, look at the Tempest! She's...even more stunning! (faints again)

Smiley

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Re: Bored Again
« Reply #87 on: November 04, 2003, 08:18:44 pm »
HAHA! Guys, stop it, you are making me blush! lol
Thanks, I do try

Azel: Noted, the retro homage triangles will stay!

Small update, started upper deck texturing (please note that I haven't built the bridge yet):

 

Klingon Fanatic

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Re: Bored Again
« Reply #88 on: November 04, 2003, 09:42:26 pm »
There's not much point in having sexy, uber- poly Federation ships like this without equally cool adversary ships IMHO.



Nice work though.

Qapla!

KF
 
« Last Edit: December 31, 1969, 06:00:00 pm by Klingon Fanatic »

starforce2

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Re: Bored Again
« Reply #89 on: November 04, 2003, 10:04:15 pm »
shameless plug...

Smiley

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Re: Bored Again
« Reply #90 on: November 05, 2003, 10:44:29 am »
LOL! Yes it was a bit!
Perhaps once I have exhausted the supply of Fed ships that require texturing, then I will move on to the Romulans!

I've finished the bridge, I'm quite pleased with how the dorsal surfaces of the ship are looking, although I think that I need to redo the pylon textures before it's finished, now - back to the ventral saucer texture! Hopefully I'll get some more done before we go off to the first showing of Matrix: Revolutions in Oxford tonight!

 

Azel

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Re: Bored Again
« Reply #91 on: November 05, 2003, 07:30:39 pm »
UBER-COOL!!!!
   

Azel

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Re: Bored Again
« Reply #92 on: November 06, 2003, 04:04:29 pm »
lets side this up shall we  

Azel

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Re: Bored Again
« Reply #93 on: November 07, 2003, 03:05:23 pm »
Bump for the weekend  

Smiley

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Re: Bored Again
« Reply #94 on: November 07, 2003, 06:48:01 pm »
Ok did a few bits b4 work 2day...not that many ppl will notice - they're so small! (Hint...Phasers!)

 


   

Kaenyne

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Re: Bored Again
« Reply #95 on: November 07, 2003, 11:05:32 pm »
Man oh man! I reaaaally want this ship!

And the phaser strips look good.

sandman69247

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Re: Bored Again
« Reply #96 on: November 07, 2003, 11:16:30 pm »
Now, THAT, is art! One small thing though...shouldn't there be a strip on the front of the saucer, too? I don't know, it just looks a little off with no strip on the front...sorry. Everything else looks fan-fricken-tastic.  

Azel

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Re: Bored Again
« Reply #97 on: November 07, 2003, 11:54:54 pm »
 
Awesome
and yeah a phaser in the front top saucer too please  

Heavens_Eagle

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Re: Bored Again
« Reply #98 on: November 09, 2003, 12:16:36 am »
 

Azel

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Re: Bored Again
« Reply #99 on: November 10, 2003, 06:31:28 pm »
DAS BOOMP  

Azel

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Re: Bored Again
« Reply #100 on: November 12, 2003, 05:03:00 pm »
I know , I know...but I have to bump again  

Smiley

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Re: Bored Again
« Reply #101 on: November 12, 2003, 09:17:04 pm »
Right....I think that this is finished - although I'm nto sure whether I should redo the texture on the pylons...looks a bit low-res, and it is! lol

Opinions please people, is it finished?

 
 
 
   

Fire Blade

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Re: Bored Again
« Reply #102 on: November 12, 2003, 09:41:28 pm »
Fantastic work ! i think your right the pylon textures need redoing but the rest of the ship looks great !
 

Azel

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Re: Bored Again
« Reply #103 on: November 12, 2003, 11:07:48 pm »
Awe-inspiring man!!!
     

E_Look

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Re: Bored Again
« Reply #104 on: November 12, 2003, 11:11:04 pm »
I've been looking forward to this one for a while.  Still, I'll agree with FireBlade- spruce up the pylons a tad.  In general, excellent job.

Captain Ron

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Re: Bored Again
« Reply #105 on: November 13, 2003, 01:03:32 am »
I have to agree if you look at the 3 rd pic down you will notice they don't seem to match to well, almost like you took them from another ship during a kit bash of two different modellers ships. Close but not quite. You might wantto think about running something like the hull bottom along them and spruce up the background Aztec again like the lower hulls.

The only other thing is the bottom of the warp engines looks plane than compared to the rest of the ship.

Yup a nit pick I know but you spent to much of your life on it now not to make it prefect. She is a beautiful ship as she is now, and considering what you did to the rest of her it would seem a shame not to have finish these last details.

Smiley

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Re: Bored Again
« Reply #106 on: November 13, 2003, 07:04:45 am »
Yes that's how I feel about it too, but sometimes you just can't be bothered! I shall redo the pylons and add "something" to the bottom of the warp nacelles

Smiley

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Re: Bored Again
« Reply #107 on: November 13, 2003, 02:06:26 pm »
Better?
   

Captain Ron

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Re: Bored Again
« Reply #108 on: November 13, 2003, 02:12:11 pm »
For undetr the engine YES! definitily.

As for the pylons, if it were me doing it. I would use that texture you used for the background on the lower hull with the windows on it (minus the windows) as 4-5 retangles on the pylons.

So it would be the light gray backing as now the checkered layer over it in 4 or 5 retangles then the current one over that. maybe some kind of flush vents in the front and back like all the TMP ships have (Consititution II, Excelsior, and Sov)

Kaenyne

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Re: Bored Again
« Reply #109 on: November 13, 2003, 02:28:52 pm »
Oh, yes, that is an improvement.

I'm not an expert by any means, but the pylons are almost matching the hull, so you are getting closer...

Smiley

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Re: Bored Again
« Reply #110 on: November 13, 2003, 02:31:21 pm »
Ok, can you post a pic of these flush vents because I am not sure what you mean?

Captain Ron

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Re: Bored Again
« Reply #111 on: November 13, 2003, 06:21:45 pm »
Quote:

Ok, can you post a pic of these flush vents because I am not sure what you mean?  




Sure can

 

Consititution II
Excel
Sov

Basically a way to vent plasma if something goes wrong with an engine.

Azel

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Re: Bored Again
« Reply #112 on: November 13, 2003, 06:40:54 pm »
WoW!!!!
Simply stunning man!!!
Thanks man...Thanks alot
You the MAN  

Smiley

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Re: Bored Again
« Reply #113 on: November 14, 2003, 03:35:55 am »
No problem Azel, as ever, it is a pleasure to texture your beautiful creations

And I thought that less was more! Haha, well maybe more is um...more? Do the latest details finish her off? (yet?)

   

Captain Ron

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Re: Bored Again
« Reply #114 on: November 14, 2003, 03:49:32 am »
And I thought that less was more! Haha, well maybe more is um...more? Do the latest details finish her off? (yet?)

Less is more only when you are in a dicussion with a short amount of time, because you push for Quality not quanty at that point. With textures less seems to be uneventful and more can definiatily look better especially if you can get more without looking cluttered (very difficult to do).

Not exactly what I was expecting but I do really like it! You have pulled it off nicily in my opinion so I would say it was done and done as a master piece (I look forward to stealing some textures off it)

Good job smiley!
(so where is the download link at?)

Smiley

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Re: Bored Again
« Reply #115 on: November 14, 2003, 04:16:34 am »
Quote:

And I thought that less was more! Haha, well maybe more is um...more? Do the latest details finish her off? (yet?)

Less is more only when you are in a dicussion with a short amount of time, because you push for Quality not quanty at that point. With textures less seems to be uneventful and more can definiatily look better especially if you can get more without looking cluttered (very difficult to do).

Not exactly what I was expecting but I do really like it! You have pulled it off nicily in my opinion so I would say it was done and done as a master piece (I look forward to stealing some textures off it)

Good job smiley!
(so where is the download link at?)  




Hehe, I'm very pleased to read your post Mon Capitain! I hope that it lives up to at least some of the kind words said in this thread

As for downloads....well I think that Azel should see the model first, as it is his ship. Once he's approved it then I'll see about posting a link - hopefully at good ol' Mackie's site.

At the moment it has about 9 1024x1024 textures, a few 512x1024s and a few more of smaller sizes! I'm not sure it would be practical to have so many high resolution textures in-game...!?
Bridge Commander maybe, but SFC...hmmm.....

What do you reckon? 2 versions, one high res and one lower one?
 

Kaenyne

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Re: Bored Again
« Reply #116 on: November 14, 2003, 08:29:35 am »
Yes, she's done!

Clear all moorings! One quarter impulse power. Navigator, set a course for the Romulan Neutral Zone. Let's show 'em what we got!

(and yeah, a lower poly version would help too.)  

Captain Ron

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Re: Bored Again
« Reply #117 on: November 14, 2003, 11:26:10 am »
Quote:

Quote:

And I thought that less was more! Haha, well maybe more is um...more? Do the latest details finish her off? (yet?)

Less is more only when you are in a dicussion with a short amount of time, because you push for Quality not quanty at that point. With textures less seems to be uneventful and more can definiatily look better especially if you can get more without looking cluttered (very difficult to do).

Not exactly what I was expecting but I do really like it! You have pulled it off nicily in my opinion so I would say it was done and done as a master piece (I look forward to stealing some textures off it)

Good job smiley!
(so where is the download link at?)  




Hehe, I'm very pleased to read your post Mon Capitain! I hope that it lives up to at least some of the kind words said in this thread

As for downloads....well I think that Azel should see the model first, as it is his ship. Once he's approved it then I'll see about posting a link - hopefully at good ol' Mackie's site.

At the moment it has about 9 1024x1024 textures, a few 512x1024s and a few more of smaller sizes! I'm not sure it would be practical to have so many high resolution textures in-game...!?
Bridge Commander maybe, but SFC...hmmm.....

What do you reckon? 2 versions, one high res and one lower one?
 




Textures of large size are more of a function of the video card. Anyone who plays the current FPS games out there will be able to handle that. all the Saucer sections textures I do are at 1024 x 1024 so they seem to work. Khalibans Enterprise was at 1024 x 1024 (4), 1024 x 512 (2), and rest 512 x 512 and that was out what 2 years ago? I would say release her at normal size and see how it goes or have a few ppl test it. I have a Geforce 4 Ti so I can handle the higher end one, but I don't know what everyone else uses. The main advantage of shrinking textures is it reduces the size in the file and makes it easier for older cards to handle (3,000 kb for a 1024 x 1024, but only 800 kb for 512 x 512) but it does reduce that details as well. It also depends on the DPI settings you did them at, if they are at 120 or so (or less) when you convert them move the resolution to 200+ and you might be able to save that detail without it blurring away on you.

So I would save the orginal make a copy and see were you are with DPIs' on the textures you might be able to shrink a few of those big ones. Any texture of the 1024 x 1024 size that doesn't have allot of detail can also be shruck down, the 1024 x 512 again depends what is on them and anything 512 x 512 and smaller doesn't matter. What I am worried about is the small details like the aztec you used that will almost disappear into a blur depending on the settings you started with.

Reverend

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Re: Bored Again
« Reply #118 on: November 14, 2003, 11:52:42 am »
I was wondering that myself- my processor is a Celeron 2GB, and I have 1GB of RAM, but I have a puny 32MB Radeon vid card... sometimes the processor will read the graphics the card won't, but sometimes neither will... so, maybe you could shrink some of the files, Smiley, to like 512x512.... that way ones that have weak cards like me can still see those awesome textures....

she looks fantastic, she really does Smiley- thank you for you dedication- we all appreciate it...  

Azel

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Re: Bored Again
« Reply #119 on: November 14, 2003, 03:20:26 pm »
Ok then send her or Post the babe!!!
 

Azel

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Re: Bored Again
« Reply #120 on: November 17, 2003, 03:29:09 pm »
BUMP PLEASE!!!  

Heavens_Eagle

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Re: Bored Again
« Reply #121 on: November 17, 2003, 11:17:22 pm »
I personally would like to see some of the textures.  The textured ship looks really nice, but what would help me would to see just a few of the textures to give some ideas.  thus I could eventually start on the Romulan ship I have meshed.  It is a high poly ship with 3616 polys.  It needs a decent texture job to finish it.  I just need some inspiration and examples to strive toward.  

Kaenyne

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Re: Bored Again
« Reply #122 on: November 18, 2003, 08:11:24 am »
Bump again!

Kaenyne

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Re: Bored Again
« Reply #123 on: November 19, 2003, 01:34:47 pm »
Up ya go...

Kaenyne

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Re: Bored Again
« Reply #124 on: November 20, 2003, 08:30:12 am »
She will be mine...

Smiley

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Re: Bored Again
« Reply #125 on: November 20, 2003, 09:41:38 am »
Yes she will, once I have finished my coursework and my exams

Azel

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Re: Bored Again
« Reply #126 on: November 20, 2003, 09:47:04 am »
 
Quote:

  Yes she will, once I have finished my coursework and my exams



NICE!!!
Along with the Andor???  

Core

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Re: Bored Again
« Reply #127 on: November 21, 2003, 05:53:40 pm »
magnifisant design Azel and greite worck smile now where is the bohimoth  ?
« Last Edit: December 31, 1969, 06:00:00 pm by Core »

Kaenyne

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Re: Bored Again
« Reply #128 on: November 24, 2003, 08:42:47 am »
Just bumpin' for an update...

Kaenyne

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Re: Bored Again
« Reply #129 on: December 01, 2003, 01:07:18 pm »
You know the drill...

Smiley

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Re: Bored Again
« Reply #130 on: December 01, 2003, 04:48:14 pm »
Quote:

You know the drill...  




One word: Exams

Azel

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Re: Bored Again
« Reply #131 on: December 01, 2003, 07:48:07 pm »
Yeah what he said!!!


Good Luck on them man!!!  

Fury_of_a_Seraph

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Re: Bored Again
« Reply #132 on: December 26, 2003, 11:23:06 am »
oh-oh-oh-oh BUMP me girl, uh! once times, twice times!

Reverend

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Re: Bored Again
« Reply #133 on: December 26, 2003, 11:35:10 pm »
Quote:

oh-oh-oh-oh BUMP me girl, uh! once times, twice times!  


Threeeee timessss, a laddyyyy...  

Fury_of_a_Seraph

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Re: Bored Again
« Reply #134 on: January 12, 2004, 09:00:08 pm »
Woe oh oh oh oh oh and she's buying a stairway to BUMP.

starwolf3500

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Re: Bored Again
« Reply #135 on: February 19, 2004, 02:44:28 pm »
Bump

starforce2

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Re: Bored Again
« Reply #136 on: February 19, 2004, 04:56:36 pm »
Old thread alert!!

starwolf3500

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Re: Bored Again
« Reply #137 on: February 19, 2004, 09:10:18 pm »
Quote:

Old thread alert!!  




Maybe, but it's a Great oldie!

~S~

ModelsPlease

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Re: Bored Again
« Reply #138 on: February 20, 2004, 02:56:22 am »
GIVE ME THIS SHIP NOW and no one gets hurt. Unbelievable work,I must have this ship.
-MP  

Azel

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Re: Bored Again
« Reply #139 on: February 20, 2004, 01:07:45 pm »
I can only say
KKKKKKKKKKKAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHNNNNNNNN!!!!!  

Kaenyne

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Re: Bored Again
« Reply #140 on: February 20, 2004, 01:54:53 pm »
Actually, we should be saying,

SMIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIILEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEY!!!

ModelsPlease

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Re: Bored Again
« Reply #141 on: February 24, 2004, 02:53:25 am »
Bump  

Smiley

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Re: Bored Again
« Reply #142 on: February 26, 2004, 06:58:23 am »
It will be done, fear not!

ModelsPlease

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Re: Bored Again
« Reply #143 on: February 27, 2004, 08:10:46 pm »
WooHoooooooooo ,now that is great news. Thanks for the update sir.
 
-MP  

Kaenyne

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Re: Bored Again
« Reply #144 on: March 10, 2004, 12:34:08 pm »
In celebration of the impending release of the U.S.S. Tempest, I bump this thread!  

Kaenyne

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Re: Bored Again
« Reply #145 on: April 15, 2004, 12:09:38 pm »
Okay, I'm feeling this is it. It's finally gonna happen.