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Re: Warming up the Forum for the Vulcan show tonight.
« Reply #20 on: November 26, 2004, 08:03:31 pm »
Watched the Second Part tonight.

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Re: Warming up the Forum for the Vulcan show tonight.
« Reply #21 on: November 26, 2004, 08:55:51 pm »
Yeah!  That part with Spock's justice of the peace and Archer was something, wasn't it!

And, I'll say this much without giving anything away- just what IS the difference between an emotional Vulcan and a Romulan, anyway?

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Re: Warming up the Forum for the Vulcan show tonight.
« Reply #22 on: November 26, 2004, 11:08:46 pm »
Again with the blatant liberal message?  According to ENT:

V'Las = George W. Bush

Andoria = Iraq

Syrranites = Democrats

If that's the case, GO V'LAS!


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Re: Warming up the Forum for the Vulcan show tonight.
« Reply #23 on: November 27, 2004, 01:30:40 pm »
Well, we COULD say V'Las is the Kaiser, Andoria, France, and the Syranites the reluctant Americans.

I mean, an ink blot test looks like different things to different pund... uh, people!

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Re: Warming up the Forum for the Vulcan show tonight.
« Reply #24 on: November 27, 2004, 05:41:58 pm »
whoever is writing this plotline they should keep him he earned my vieweship back again. and I never normallly give a show ( or anything or anyone else for that matter) a 2nd chance.
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Re: Warming up the Forum for the Vulcan show tonight.
« Reply #25 on: November 27, 2004, 09:48:17 pm »
The Stevens have been writing Star Trek novels for years, and while I think some of their ideas are very...'80's Pocket Book Trek...they do know what they're doing.  I haven't seen the episode now, but finding out they're involved makes me anxious to.
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Re: Warming up the Forum for the Vulcan show tonight.
« Reply #26 on: November 27, 2004, 09:52:06 pm »
Actually, lots of people are writing in this story arc.  In the first episode, it was Judith and Garfield Reeves-Stevens (their first episode for the series).  This episode was written by Andre Bormanis (who's best episodes were Silent Enemy from the first season and Countdown this season, which he didn't write alone.  The rest of the episodes he's written haven't been very noteworthy).

I think both of them did a very good job with this story (it seems kind of difficult to keep things consistant when a different writer writes the next episode).
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Re: Warming up the Forum for the Vulcan show tonight.
« Reply #27 on: November 27, 2004, 10:31:38 pm »
I think both of them did a very good job with this story (it seems kind of difficult to keep things consistant when a different writer writes the next episode).

That's actually one of the things I miss about TOS.  They had different writers that you never really knew what you were gonna get with the next episode.
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Re: Warming up the Forum for the Vulcan show tonight.
« Reply #28 on: November 28, 2004, 04:43:25 pm »
Well, I suspect that was because the show was simply so new.  Now that we've all seen TOS ('cept for the li'l kids posting here), TMPs, TNG, DS9, Voyager, and now Enterprise, I think we all might have developed an instinctive sense of what we could expect, never mind the next episode, but what will happen after the next commerical!

I was fairly surprised by that passionate, if hateful, leader of the High Command- he'd kill his own!

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Re: Warming up the Forum for the Vulcan show tonight.
« Reply #29 on: November 28, 2004, 05:30:46 pm »
Who you calling a li'l kid?

Well, I have seen the first two seasons now, just waiting till the third one comes out.
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« Reply #30 on: November 28, 2004, 05:32:52 pm »
Well, I suspect that was because the show was simply so new.  Now that we've all seen TOS ('cept for the li'l kids posting here), TMPs, TNG, DS9, Voyager, and now Enterprise, I think we all might have developed an instinctive sense of what we could expect, never mind the next episode, but what will happen after the next commerical!

I was fairly surprised by that passionate, if hateful, leader of the High Command- he'd kill his own!

 I suprised at the person myself. Imbeginning to wonder if he is a Romulan mole. He seems to be doing his best to break the Earth Vucan alliance, and start a war with Andoria.

 And if you really think about it the last thing the Romulans would want, is Vulcan to follow the true way of Surak. This would throw a big wrench into their "reunification" ::) plans.

 I can't wait to see how this all pans out. But you are right E-Look, somthings NOT right about this guy. :skeptic: :skeptic: :skeptic:

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Re: Warming up the Forum for the Vulcan show tonight.
« Reply #31 on: November 28, 2004, 07:43:50 pm »
I suprised at the person myself. Imbeginning to wonder if he is a Romulan mole. He seems to be doing his best to break the Earth Vucan alliance, and start a war with Andoria.

 And if you really think about it the last thing the Romulans would want, is Vulcan to follow the true way of Surak. This would throw a big wrench into their "reunification" ::) plans.

 I can't wait to see how this all pans out. But you are right E-Look, somthings NOT right about this guy. :skeptic: :skeptic: :skeptic:

All the Vulcan's show way too much emotion.  It's like the actors aren't even trying.  I suppose its a hard role for an actor, since they spend years learning how to "emote", but still..... how hard is it to just hold a blank face for 15 seconds?

Anyway, look at the bad guy's motivation from a logical viewpoint.  The Andorians are using their scans of the Xindi weapon (from when they had it in their hold last season) to build a new weapon of their own.  Logically, their target will be Vulcan.  Therefore, logically, they must be destroyed before they get their weapon built.  (Just like the humans sent out Enterprise to stop the Xindi last season.)  This plan will save Vulcan, therefore, logically, anyone who opposes it must be wiped out.

He might be a Romulan plant.  But he doesn't have to be.  The path of logic is cold enough to be used in many directions and it has no heart.  Once pointed, you just keep going.

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Re: Warming up the Forum for the Vulcan show tonight.
« Reply #32 on: November 28, 2004, 08:48:51 pm »
I didn't mind him looking furious when talking to Trip (since it could have just been for intimidation), but, even though it seemed to a lesser degree, he seemed angry the rest of the time.

Actually, if I think about it, he probably showed less emotion when he Admiral Leyton ;)
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Re: Warming up the Forum for the Vulcan show tonight.
« Reply #33 on: November 28, 2004, 08:51:30 pm »
Who you calling a li'l kid?

Well, I have seen the first two seasons now, just waiting till the third one comes out.

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Re: Warming up the Forum for the Vulcan show tonight.
« Reply #34 on: November 28, 2004, 10:41:20 pm »
Shhhh.  Save the Romulan talk for three months or so.


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Re: Warming up the Forum for the Vulcan show tonight.
« Reply #35 on: November 29, 2004, 09:21:41 pm »
I'm excited :)
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Re: Warming up the Forum for the Vulcan show tonight.
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Re: Warming up the Forum for the Vulcan show tonight.
« Reply #37 on: November 30, 2004, 09:13:25 am »
Well, I suspect that was because the show was simply so new.  Now that we've all seen TOS ('cept for the li'l kids posting here), TMPs, TNG, DS9, Voyager, and now Enterprise, I think we all might have developed an instinctive sense of what we could expect, never mind the next episode, but what will happen after the next commerical!

Quite true, though I could do that with TNG from the start...TOS was never as easy.  You never knew if the Klingons would be defeated or if Kirk would have to violate the Prime Directive just to maintain the balance of power.

Enterprise has surprised me more times than Voyager or TNG ever did, one of the reasons I've stuck with it.

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I was fairly surprised by that passionate, if hateful, leader of the High Command- he'd kill his own!

Having seen the episode now, I have to agree.  Most Trek bad guys aren't quite so eager for blood.  That it was a Vulcan willing to blast his own people out of existence increased the shock value slightly.
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Re: Warming up the Forum for the Vulcan show tonight.
« Reply #38 on: December 01, 2004, 04:47:55 am »
Ive been waiting for the episode where 7of9 travels back in time. T'Pol and seven get into a nude Jello wrestling match for the Orion Syndicate. They label it "The Slammin' Silicone" grudgematch.  :o ;)




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Re: Warming up the Forum for the Vulcan show tonight.
« Reply #39 on: December 03, 2004, 02:19:59 pm »
The early reviews for the finale of the triology tonight look pretty good, including a couple twists or two.


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